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    Their rights to what, got voted away? To marry? It is illegal to have anal sex in Alabama, but I don't think people who engage in that are ever going to take it to the election booth. Why, you might ask? Because they are normal!!!!

    Once again, why do two men or two women need to get married?

    Yes, sterile heterosexuals should be allowed to get married. With all the advancements in medicine, today, I really doubt anyone is sterile. A friend mine was told he was sterile after years of attempts. Then his wife got pregnant. It could only happen because it was a guy and girl.

    Tell me this. What, other than tax privileges, do gay people have to gain by being married? No one is stopping them from living together and enjoying their lives, right now.

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    I agree Quinn that it seems petty on the surface for gays to push for marriage over civil unions. I think that it comes down to family needs , like access during medical emergencies and insurance. All of the needs of gay and lesbian couples could be met by civil union legislation like Washington passed.

    I personally dont care but I dont believe it is a right to be able to marry, just like it is not a right to marry more than one person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    Their rights to what, got voted away? To marry?
    The right to not be discriminated against based on your gender.

    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    It is illegal to have anal sex in Alabama, but I don't think people who engage in that are ever going to take it to the election booth. Why, you might ask? Because they are normal!!!!
    What does what you are and aren't allowed to do in Alabama have to do with the rights of people to marry in Maine?

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    Once again, why do two men or two women need to get married?
    For the same reason and man and a women need to get married.

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    Yes, sterile heterosexuals should be allowed to get married. With all the advancements in medicine, today, I really doubt anyone is sterile. A friend mine was told he was sterile after years of attempts. Then his wife got pregnant. It could only happen because it was a guy and girl.
    Women who pass menopause or have had their tubes tied are sterile, men who've had vasectomy's are sterile, if the only purpose of marriage is to have children then these people shouldn't be allowed to get married.

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    Tell me this. What, other than tax privileges, do gay people have to gain by being married? No one is stopping them from living together and enjoying their lives, right now.
    What do strait people have to gain by getting married (other than tax privileges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    I personally dont care but I dont believe it is a right to be able to marry, just like it is not a right to marry more than one person.
    It may not be a right to get married, but you definitely have a right not to be discriminated against based on your race, gender etc.

    People may not have a right to sit in the front of a bus, but telling black people they can't sit there is a violation of their rights.

    You may not have a right to get married, but telling someone they can't because they are the wrong gender is a violation of their rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloggingSully View Post
    It may not be a right to get married, but you definitely have a right not to be discriminated against based on your race, gender etc.

    People may not have a right to sit in the front of a bus, but telling black people they can't sit there is a violation of their rights.

    You may not have a right to get married, but telling someone they can't because they are the wrong gender is a violation of their rights.
    Nobody is gender discriminating. It would be a discrimination against a sexual orientation that could be considered a choice. We age discriminate all the time. Just as marrying 5 wives is a choice so is marrying the same sex. Nobody is saying the individuals cant get married just that they can not marry another person of the same sex.

    Churches have the right to not marry individuals, would you consider this discriminatory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloggingSully View Post
    The founding fathers created the supreme court in order to prevent the majority from being able to violate or take away the rights of a minority. If a state voted to not let black and white kids go to the same schools, or not let hispanic people hold public office, or not let people under 5'2'' teach in public schools a court would step in, correct?
    Homosexuals aren't considered a Constitutionally protected minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    Nobody is saying the individuals cant get married just that they can not marry another person of the same sex.
    By your logic, it was not discrimination when black people and white people weren't allowed to marry each other because they were still allowed to get married to people who had the same color skin as they did.

    Banning gay marriage is discrimination based on gender. If John wants to marry Bill he's not allowed to, but if John was born Johanna it would be fine. People are beind denied a privledge that someone else has because they are the wrong gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Homosexuals aren't considered a Constitutionally protected minority.
    In what way? And where do we stop? The Constitution says that all men are created equal. How does that NOT include gays?

    This type of thought processes will only lead to more un-needed litagation for other "groups of people". Short people, left-handed people, people who walk with a limp. It's all covered!!!!!

    Like Ugly said, people can't marry 5 people in America. Does that discriminate against Mormons? If so, shouldn't polygamy be on the next ballot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloggingSully View Post
    By your logic, it was not discrimination when black people and white people weren't allowed to marry each other because they were still allowed to get married to people who had the same color skin as they did.

    Banning gay marriage is discrimination based on gender. If John wants to marry Bill he's not allowed to, but if John was born Johanna it would be fine. People are beind denied a privledge that someone else has because they are the wrong gender.
    You're making a logically flawed argument. He's not being discriminated against based on his gender, he's being discriminated against based on his sexual preference. You're really stretching to try and include one under the other.

    There are some states that are passing laws that put homosexuals as a protected class under their state constitutions, which is perfectly legal. If those laws get passed in a state, then a gay marriage ban would be deemed unconstitutonal.
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