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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyshackleford View Post
    Well, you do defend them to any end. And how can you fault them for not filing suit when you yourself say it is the thing people do with a victim mentality? Yet it is your people who do it constantly, and you fault others when they don't. Interesting. Apparenetly you don't see the contradiction, though. I've ceased being surprised by such inconsistencies from you though.

    The other 'plantiffs' you mention could apparently give a shit about your cult. The other 'planitffs' I was talking about were the people you scammed out of their money in the time article. You don't follow along (or spell) to well, do you?
    There is no inconsistency in what I say as in my earlier post I say that most of the time people who sue are victims. I did not say ALL people ALL the time.

    If you had been paying attention in the first place you would have read my post where I have been talking about all the media who conspired to do a HACK job on the Church. They didn't file any libel suits as they KNOW they would have lost then. They KNOW they did perform a pre-meditated smear piece NOT a piece of journalism.

    It was revealed that many of those "trials" , (which I noticed you failed to name ANY of them when I asked you to) where people paid to sue the church.

    They were also cases where people who had been released from psychiatric hospitals after being damaged by ECT were sent into churches to claim that Scientology had messed them up when they were already that way.

    In the meantime Scientology continues to reveal the crimes perpetrated on humanity by the pharmaceutical industry & they don't like it. They try to use their billions to attack the church & bring it down. This is not about to happen & makes them crazy. They can't stand it that no matter how hard they try & hit the church, it continues to expand & help more people.

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    Maybe when I'm making $20 million per movie like John Travolta and Tom Cruise, I'll be more willing to part with my hard-earned money and give it to your cult......eh, wait.

    Nevermind.
    Your ignorance is painful to witness.....

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    There is no inconsistency in what I say as in my earlier post I say that most of the time people who sue are victims. I did not say ALL people ALL the time.
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    From my experience people who file lawsuits most often are people with the "victim" mentality. It is a "look what was done to me" viewpoint where the person cannot take the slightest responsibility for their own actions.
    Honestly, do you even read what you post? I provided an entire page of lawsuits that your cult has filed against other people, but you now change your tune about them filing those. First people who do this have a victim mentality and can't take responsibility, and now they are actual victims. And your 2nd post about the victim comment is a flat out lie. You do realize what you posted is still there, don't you? Your stupidity is honestly bordering unfathomable at this point. If I were a fellow scientologist, I would wish that you would STFU and stop giving the rest of the group a bad name. The fact that your aren't bright enough to speaks volumes.

    None of the stuff about companies not suing you has anything to do with the people that you have robbed that were in the story, and in France, which was the original point. It is simply a weak attempt, by a weak-minded dishonest person to change the subject. But quickly since you are unwilling to talk about the actual subject of being a thief without reverting to changing the subject...the fact that those companies didn't sue your cult just means that they don't want to get in a long, drawn out, and expensive legal battle with a bunch of fucking lunatics like yourself. Honestly, that vast majority of people think you and yours are batshit crazy. If you don't believe it, look through our original discussion of your quack 'friend' and see people literally telling you that they can't take you seriously because of scientology. All of the companies you mention are well off, and fighting legals battles with a bunch of brainwashed automatons isn't beneficial no matter what you've written about them. Just because your cult likes to live in the legal system, doesn't mean other people do. Most don't
    have such a 'victim mentality' or a 'look what was done to me viewpoint where the person cannot take the slightest responsibility for their own actions.' like scientologists do. The quotes are your own words about lawsuit happy people, BTW. Strange how that doesn't apply to your own group, and now you wonder why more people don't do it.

    Here's a game for you. Why don't you tell us about Xenu? Is it because the person who let that cat out of the bag was sued and you don't want to be next?
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    yeah whats up witht this Xenu dude? wheres he at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black-n-Red View Post
    Maybe when I'm making $20 million per movie like John Travolta and Tom Cruise, I'll be more willing to part with my hard-earned money and give it to your cult......eh, wait.

    Nevermind.

    I already know B&R that your comments are all slurs & derogatory. But if you ever did have an urge to discover just what it is you are deriding I would have you know that the library is full of books on the subject you can check out FOR FREE.

    And if your library does not have any said books then request to your librarian that they get them. If you call the church & let them know, guess what? They will DONATE all the books you want FOR FREE.

    I know. I have donated many books to many libraries around the world, myself, personally. I even donated the money to set up the translation unit in New Delhi to have all the books translated in all the languages of India, (the Indian Rupee alone has 13 different languages on it, not a small task.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyshackleford View Post
    Honestly, do you even read what you post? I provided an entire page of lawsuits that your cult has filed against other people,
    I asked you for it a few pages ago & you never provided it. Give me the lawsuits one by one & we can address that if you really want.

    The point of this thread was this French lawsuit which is already in appeals court so there is ZERO victory there for you Red.

    The fact that you last post has you foaming at the mouth just shows me how much of a rabid anti-religious hate monger you are.

    On one hand you tell me that the libel suit being thrown out tells your deluded mind just how right you are. But when the church publishes all the crimes of the people behind the smear campaign the fact that they never sued the church for libel themselves, doesn't serve you as an admission of guilt as it does when the church's libel suit is thrown out.

    Talk about flawed logic.

    And when one person on another thread says I lose cred cuz I'm a SCNist that suddenly becomes EVERYONE, that's just more delusional generality & shows me that you don't have the ability to rationally think.

    The source of all your material on Scientology comes SOLELY from hate groups on the internet. Anyone can see that that is out of whack.

    http://www.freedom.org.uk/mag/issuea02/page05.htm

    Courts deliver dramatic victories for religious freedom

    The Church of Scientology in Europe, the Court of Appeal in Lyon, France, ruled that Scientology is to be regarded as a religious community and that the sincerity of Scientologists’ religious beliefs is beyond question.

    The Court acquitted nine Scientologists of bogus criminal charges and cancelled or suspended the sentences of all other defendants, while stating that it is impossible to deny Scientologists the principle of religious freedom.

    Supreme Court of Italy Throws Out Attack on Religion
    In another case in which the Church of Scientology’s legal status as a religion was under challenge, the Supreme Court of Italy deliberated for less than three hours before deciding a lower court’s decision against the Church should be cancelled


    “The Supreme Court has restored confidence in Italian justice as well as religious freedom,” said the president of the Church in Italy, Fabio Amicarelli. “This case was a heresy trial founded on prejudice rather than facts.”


    It was also a trial rife with injustice and corruption. One of the key officials conducting “investigations” into the Church’s activities was Lieutenant Guido Schettino of the Finance Police. Yet Schettino was convicted and jailed himself on charges of corruption and bribe-taking. And one of the attorneys for the anti-religious group behind the intolerance, Edoardo Andreotti Loria, described his group as “a mafia association” because “we have an idea of freedom that is different from that of the others.”

    This is the reason the attacks are increasing. The church is gaining ground on FULL RELIGIOUS RECOGNITION in France. It has earned it Italy. Powerful people in the French & German governments don't want this to happen. They are afraid that just like what happened to Schettino, their long standing crimes will be exposed.
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    I'm done with you. You just make up one thing after another, and can't even be internally consistent, and have no course of action but to change the points at hand. Judging from others replies you might want to try to take your recruiting efforts elsewhere.

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    I've made nothing up.

    I merely counter the hate you spread. No other "agenda" as you like to infer.

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    Scientology is nothing but a stupid cult.
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