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    Yeah, where I come from random anonymous internet posters don't propose 'new models for healing.' Most people leave such things to doctors who thoroughly understand medicine and the human body and have the 'gonads' to put that up to peer review (unlike your quack friend,) and not science fiction authors who charge people for their 'research.' Ironic that the claims you level against me can be used against the 'experts' that you believe, isn't it?
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    Once again, you say nothing about the topic so thanks for acknowledging your ignorance or lack of education in the field.

    This simply points to a basic disagreement where I have stated from the beginning "Take responsibility for your own health" & you think you should always blindly believe your medical doctors.

    Good Luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Once again, you say nothing about the topic so thanks for acknowledging your ignorance or lack of education in the field.

    This simply points to a basic disagreement where I have stated from the beginning "Take responsibility for your own health" & you think you should always blindly believe your medical doctors.

    Good Luck.
    Can you please show me where I said that? I said trust doctors over lying internet posters and sci fi writers (with whom your blind trust lies, again, ironic that you do what you claim of me, no?), but that is hardly blind faith. You make a great argument when one ignores the lies, contradictions, ulterior motives and putting of words into people's mouths. Other than that, its pretty hard to disagree with just about anything you say.

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    meanwhile back on the threads original title....

    What you are about to LOSE:
    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html
    http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html


    The Bill for "affordable healthcare" that is designed to take away your rights:
    http://energycommerce.house.gov/Pres...0714/aahca.pdf

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    Page 22
    Bill mandates will audit the books of all employers who self insure

    Page 23 line 8
    Parity for Mental health & substance abuse disorder benefits equals mandated money for unworkable psychiatric solutions.

    Page 29 lines 4-16
    Your healthcare is rationed, $5000 for individual & $10,000 for family cap per year.

    Page 30 sec 123
    There will be a govt committe that decides what treatments/benefits you will get. They will consist of the Surgeon General, ( a woman who was a nutritional consultant to Burger King!), 9 presidentially appointed individuals & 9 appointed by the Comptroller General.

    Page 42
    The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your health care benefits for you, you have no choice.

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    Healthcare will be provided to All non-US citizens, legal or otherwise.

    Page 58
    The govt will have real time access to individuals finances & national healthcare ID card will be issued.

    Page 59 lines 21-24
    The govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.

    Page 65 Sec 164
    is a payoff-subsidized plan for retirees & their families in unions & community organizations, (ACORN).

    Page 72 Lines 8-14
    Govt creates healthcare exchange to bring private healthcare plans under govt control.

    Page 84 sec 203
    Govt mandates all benefit packages for private HC plan in the exchange.

    Page 85 line 7
    Specifications for benefit plans equals the govt will ration your healthcare.

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    Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services equals translations for illegals.

    Page 95 lines 8-18
    Govt will use groups, (ACORN) & Americorp to sign up individuals for HC plan.

    Page 102 lines 12-18
    Medicaid eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid, no choice.

    Page 124 lines24-25
    No company can sue the Govt on price fixing, no judicial review against govt monopoly.

    THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE! This bill has 1047 pages. The senate versions, (Baccus & Kennedy Bills which will be "harmonized together" by Nevada Sen Harry Reid) are worse.

    READ IT YOURSELF!

    BE INFORMED!

    Additional opinions
    http://michaelconnelly.viviti.com/en...lth-care-bills
    http://www.daytondailynews.com/opini...no-313655.html


    WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN!
    https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
    http://www.house.gov/zip/ZIP2Rep.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyshackleford View Post
    Can you please show me where I said that? I said trust doctors over lying internet posters and sci fi writers (with whom your blind trust lies, again, ironic that you do what you claim of me, no?), but that is hardly blind faith. You make a great argument when one ignores the lies, contradictions, ulterior motives and putting of words into people's mouths. Other than that, its pretty hard to disagree with just about anything you say.
    I guess it is next to impossible for you to talk about anything but me.

    Listen Rusty why not go start a thread called "KR1963 is a lying douche bag" and get your over compensating testosterone small man disease out of your system.

    If you feel like discussing health care some time give me a call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    I guess it is next to impossible for you to talk about anything but me.

    Listen Rusty why not go start a thread called "KR1963 is a lying douche bag" and get your over compensating testosterone small man disease out of your system.

    If you feel like discussing health care some time give me a call.
    That's not necessary, you've pretty much turned this thread into that already. I must say it is funny that you mention a possible testosterone imbalance, though. I thought you didn't believe in such?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyshackleford View Post
    That's not necessary, you've pretty much turned this thread into that already. I must say it is funny that you mention a possible testosterone imbalance, though. I thought you didn't believe in such?
    Solely for your benefit Rusty, just for you.

    But once again you can't seem to stop talking about me. Sorry I've moved into your frontal lobes.

    Here's a remedy:

    Try putting up a post that has something to do with the thread @ some point.

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    Btw
    Jimmy has saved more lives then you could even imagine. If you stopped being royal DB @ some point I might give you a list of the people he's saved & THEY can tell you their stories.

    Also one of the producers of the original Star Wars bought the rights to Forbidden Medicine. Maybe one day you'll see the story & still not believe it. Reason being is that you are one of those people who can never be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Btw
    Jimmy has saved more lives then you could even imagine. If you stopped being royal DB @ some point I might give you a list of the people he's saved & THEY can tell you their stories.

    Also one of the producers of the original Star Wars bought the rights to Forbidden Medicine. Maybe one day you'll see the story & still not believe it. Reason being is that you are one of those people who can never be wrong.
    Of course, except none of this can be validated. The man that you pretend to have known, 'Jimmy', as you like to call him now, was not allowed to practice medicine in the US because he was a known fraud. He also did not put his work up for peer review, so none of it has been substantiated by others in the field who would know if it was on the up and up or not. He didn't even write up his own research, he had a lawyer do it for him. None of this is exactly common procedure for honest scientists, now is it? I wonder why? I can find you lists of people that say they were taken by aliens and anally probed on spaceships, that doesn't make it so. Unless someone involved in Star Wars said it, then it must be true, right? I mean how can a movie be false? Honestly, sometimes I hope your joking, and parts of these posts are in jest. And yes, I can never be wrong, because I look for hard evidence. Makes perfect sense. You, on other hand, want to destroy the pharmaceutical companies (you said this) and promote anything that furthers this cause, despite no proof whatsoever. Seems like you are the one who can't be wrong, to me.

    Here is another great story of space angels for you, and this one is completely free. And before you say anything, one of our fellow posters is very, VERY fond of this man. He is a preacher and supposedly has a Ph.D. His theories are also available on the internet. From you previous posts, this makes him more than qualified for your 'blind faith' as you like to call it. Most people find this story insane, but I have a feeling you'll love it. Enjoy it, on me, free of charge. I won't even threaten to hold it over your head, like you do with your con men's story. Who's the nice guy now?

    http://www.catwithahat.net/ufos.shtml
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