Presidential speech directly towards students creating controversy

Zapp Brannigan · 09-03-2009, 04:55 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/200909.../ynews_pl888_1

What do you guys think? Personally, I have no problem with the speech itself, but the descriptions of the "guided discussion"/lesson plans I definitely do NOT like. Of course, that problem is easily solved in individual classrooms-don't follow them. What do you guys think overall?

UGLY · 09-03-2009, 04:59 PM

I dont mind it as long as there are no political overtones or undertones.

Chance174 · 09-03-2009, 09:50 PM

I think giving the speach is a great idea....hell if it can help a couple kids.

However, i agree i didn't like the "suggested activities" that went a long with it. Notice they changed after people spoke up about it.

washed up wrestler · 09-03-2009, 11:56 PM

The right wing would attack Obama if he farted in church. The bigoted right is freaking out that they are meaningless.

The right's mental illnesses are just what the democrats need to stay in power in perpetuity.

JensenS · 09-04-2009, 12:18 AM

No problem with the concept of the speech nor with the activities now that the actual content of the speech is a little clearer.

Smarter thing to do probably would have been to keep the activities a little close to the vest until after the speech had been given.

arm-spin · 09-04-2009, 07:55 AM

What Zapp said. I don't think the questions are particularly malicious, they seem like pretty basic reading comprehension stuff, that kids would do as part of an everyday English curriculum, but as a teacher I'd rather have my own discussion.

Jacob311 · 09-04-2009, 08:29 AM

I agree. The lesson plan afterwards is just a suggestive one. And, according to the Dep't of Ed., there are going to be no political discussions, only discussions of staying in school, studying, etc . . .

In addition, Pres. Bush and Reagan both gave speeches directly to students. Pres. Bush was criticized by Democrats for misusing taxpayer money, so the left's hands are not clean on this issue either. Reagan even mentioned political issues during the speech, including gun control and the line-item veto. So, the right is being a bunch of hypocritical punks, but the Dems need to understand that they have pulled this card before. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi..._students.html

Everyone (Dems and Repubs) need to chill out. I think it is great when a Pres. (Dem or Repub) speaks to kids, as long as the speech is focused on educational issues. By the way, I highly doubt Pres. Obama will discuss political issues; I don't think he wants to get into the intricacies of health care reform with students

washed up wrestler · 09-04-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by arm-spin

What Zapp said. I don't think the questions are particularly malicious, they seem like pretty basic reading comprehension stuff, that kids would do as part of an everyday English curriculum, but as a teacher I'd rather have my own discussion.

I guess he'll be indoctrinating them to communism and taking their lunch money.

UGLY · 09-04-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by washed up wrestler

I guess he'll be indoctrinating them to communism and taking their lunch money.

He wont just take their lunch money, he will redistribute the lunch money to those who dont have as much lunch money.

Chance174 · 09-04-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UGLY

He wont just take their lunch money, he will redistribute the lunch money to those who dont have as much lunch money.

lol.....now that is funny

09-03-2009, 04:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Zapp Brannigan Olympic Champ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 5,763	Presidential speech directly towards students creating controversy http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/200909.../ynews_pl888_1 What do you guys think? Personally, I have no problem with the speech itself, but the descriptions of the "guided discussion"/lesson plans I definitely do NOT like. Of course, that problem is easily solved in individual classrooms-don't follow them. What do you guys think overall? __________________ Rest in Peace Adam Frey, you left us far too soon Brands: Metcalf! What is good in life? Metcalf: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

09-03-2009, 04:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
UGLY Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 4,101	Re: Presidential speech directly towards students creating controversy I dont mind it as long as there are no political overtones or undertones.

09-03-2009, 09:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Chance174 NCAA Champ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,338	Re: Presidential speech directly towards students creating controversy I think giving the speach is a great idea....hell if it can help a couple kids. However, i agree i didn't like the "suggested activities" that went a long with it. Notice they changed after people spoke up about it.

09-03-2009, 11:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
washed up wrestler Round of 12 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 438	Re: Presidential speech directly towards students creating controversy The right wing would attack Obama if he farted in church. The bigoted right is freaking out that they are meaningless. The right's mental illnesses are just what the democrats need to stay in power in perpetuity.

09-04-2009, 12:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
JensenS Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 13,723	Re: Presidential speech directly towards students creating controversy No problem with the concept of the speech nor with the activities now that the actual content of the speech is a little clearer. Smarter thing to do probably would have been to keep the activities a little close to the vest until after the speech had been given.

09-04-2009, 07:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
arm-spin Olympic Champ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,135	Re: Presidential speech directly towards students creating controversy What Zapp said. I don't think the questions are particularly malicious, they seem like pretty basic reading comprehension stuff, that kids would do as part of an everyday English curriculum, but as a teacher I'd rather have my own discussion.

09-04-2009, 08:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jacob311 Redshirt Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 56	Re: Presidential speech directly towards students creating controversy I agree. The lesson plan afterwards is just a suggestive one. And, according to the Dep't of Ed., there are going to be no political discussions, only discussions of staying in school, studying, etc . . . In addition, Pres. Bush and Reagan both gave speeches directly to students. Pres. Bush was criticized by Democrats for misusing taxpayer money, so the left's hands are not clean on this issue either. Reagan even mentioned political issues during the speech, including gun control and the line-item veto. So, the right is being a bunch of hypocritical punks, but the Dems need to understand that they have pulled this card before. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi..._students.html Everyone (Dems and Repubs) need to chill out. I think it is great when a Pres. (Dem or Repub) speaks to kids, as long as the speech is focused on educational issues. By the way, I highly doubt Pres. Obama will discuss political issues; I don't think he wants to get into the intricacies of health care reform with students __________________ "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice." -Martin Luther King, Jr.

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