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    Well as of thursday he became an eagle. I was surprised that no onehas brought this up considering we had a good debate over his actions. Now that he has done his time do you think that it was the right thing for the NFL to reinstate him and for the eagles to sign him?

    I personally think that he has served his time but dont think it was a great idea for him to be signed right away. I know another year out of the league would have hurt his chances of making it in the NFL, but I still would of liked to see some action on his part rather than lip service. I get tired of this argument that he deserves the right to make a living. He does have the right to earn a living but that does not mean playing ball for millions of dollars. I am sure we all know people who have made mistakes that have cost them the ability to make a living in certain fields where they would thrive or make better money. The fact is they made a mistake and they are punished for it and they have got to move on to other things. Mike Vick is in a great position to make his life better and be a spokesman against animal abuse and I hop he takes advantage of it.

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    So long as Leonard Little is still in the league after what he did and what his punishment wound up being, I have no problem with Vick being reinstated and signed.

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    Even though I don't understand why this is under politics&religion, here are my thoughts;

    Ray Lewis murdered someone.
    Kobe Bryant raped a woman.
    Dante Stallworth killed a man.
    Everyone hates Vick.

    Why does everyone else get by with out raised concern yet Vick is the most hated man
    in America? I just don't get it. The man did his time, and he deserves a second chance.

    If you had the best thing in your life taken away from you for one mistake you made,
    wouldn't you be dying for a second chance? I think so.

    Besides, to the gen pop, dog fighting seems like a horrible thing to do. But to Vick,
    he grew up with it, it's in his culture. To him, it's just another hobby or sport. Some
    say, "Well, he may have grown up in it, but he could have gotten out whenever
    he wanted." Not really, he was so deep into the business that he would have been
    murdered or had his family harmed if he had just up and decided to quit.

    I think he deserves a second chance and as soon as he throws 3k yards and 20 TDs
    with another 800yd rushing and 5TDs, everyone will forget this ever happened.
    "It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving foward, how much you can take and keep moving foward. That's how winning is done!"

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    Just because someone "grew up with it" doesn't make it ok. Yes, Vick did his time. I bet he stays suspended for at least 4 games.

    Ray Lewis wasn't convicted of murder. Vick was convicted of a crime big difference.

    Stallworth is suspended for the entire season. Which is a far greater punishment than he received from our legal system. He should still be in jail IMO. If it was you or I who killed someone while driving drunk we would've gotten more than 28 days in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    So long as Leonard Little is still in the league after what he did and what his punishment wound up being, I have no problem with Vick being reinstated and signed.
    I agree with you, Leonard Little should never have been allowed to play again after the first offense and especially after the second. Having said that, that was under a different commissioner who had not set the conduct standards as high as Goodell has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhs189 View Post
    Even though I don't understand why this is under politics&religion, here are my thoughts;

    Ray Lewis murdered someone.
    Kobe Bryant raped a woman.
    Dante Stallworth killed a man.
    Everyone hates Vick.

    Why does everyone else get by with out raised concern yet Vick is the most hated man
    in America? I just don't get it. The man did his time, and he deserves a second chance.

    If you had the best thing in your life taken away from you for one mistake you made,
    wouldn't you be dying for a second chance? I think so.

    Besides, to the gen pop, dog fighting seems like a horrible thing to do. But to Vick,
    he grew up with it, it's in his culture. To him, it's just another hobby or sport. Some
    say, "Well, he may have grown up in it, but he could have gotten out whenever
    he wanted." Not really, he was so deep into the business that he would have been
    murdered or had his family harmed if he had just up and decided to quit.

    I think he deserves a second chance and as soon as he throws 3k yards and 20 TDs
    with another 800yd rushing and 5TDs, everyone will forget this ever happened.
    I agree with Wiltz, Ray Lewis was not convicted neither was Bryant that case never went to trial as the victim refused to testify. Bryant also settled a civil suite out of court. While what Stalworth did was horrid and perhaps could have been avoided if he had not been drunk and high while driving, it was not a straight forward DUI accident or vehicular manslaughter. The man that was killed from what I have stepped into the street and that Stalworth did run a red light or stop sign, the man was not in a cross walk. Stalworth got a laughable sentence and has paid the family well I am sure. His one year suspension might not be all he gets from the NFL and if he never played again it would not hurt my feelings at all, he should miss at least as many seasons as Vick did.

    What has Vick done to deserve a second chance to play in the NFL. As I stated before millions of people make small mistakes that dont allow them to work in certain areas of our society, no matter what turn around they have made.

    I agree with Wiltz again. Just because he grew up with it is never an excuse. If it were every person who grew up in a screwed up situation would have a legit excuse why they are screwed up " I grew up with crack so I had to do it" sorry no dice. Grow up be your own man. Also to suggest that he would be killed or his family would have is absurd, there is no evidence of that.

    You are right after he does well, certain people will forget what he has done, but many wont especially if he doesn't live up to his promise to be active with the humane society.

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    When a criminal serves his sentence, he has paid his debt to society, and should be free to pursue his career again, even if that career is pro football.

    I don't follow the NFL enough to comment on the crimes of individual other players, but it seems like a lot of pro athletes are accused or convicted of violent crimes against human beings. Harming dogs is IMO less henious than harming humans.

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    The didn't get convicted because they're Ray Lewis and Kobe Bryant.
    Lewis arranged a plead agreement because he knew he was guilty.
    "It ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving foward, how much you can take and keep moving foward. That's how winning is done!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    When a criminal serves his sentence, he has paid his debt to society, and should be free to pursue his career again, even if that career is pro football.

    I don't follow the NFL enough to comment on the crimes of individual other players, but it seems like a lot of pro athletes are accused or convicted of violent crimes against human beings. Harming dogs is IMO less henious than harming humans.
    The only profession I know that is that forgiving is Congress. If you have felonies you cant be a police officer. IF you desert the military they will not let you back in. Certain occupations do not care that you served your time, tehy dont want criminals working for them. I am not saying it is right but as it stands they have the right to refuse to hire former criminals, it is not a right to get your job back after you have been in prison.

    I agree that pets are not on the same plain as humans.

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