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    The acts of killing his own dogs because they didn't fight well, while disgusting to me and many others, was simply part and parcel with the illegal acts of gambling and dog fighting. I'm not aware of any laws against killing your own dog.

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    The laws covering animal abuse vary widely and wildly depending on the state. Here is a brief synopsis http://www.hsus.org/web-files/PDF/st...elty_chart.pdf Of course, the problem then becomes one of defining exactly what is cruelty.
    Most dog racers use the arguement "It is my dog, I can do what I want." but have begun recently to run afoul of laws that say that killing the dog must be done as humanely as possible. Of course, they cheat like crazy on it (it is cheaper to do what Vick did than to pay for a vet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Nobody knows if Ray killed that woman, including you.
    If you think that Kobe raped that woman, you are naive. She was a gold digging opportunist, no different than the casino worker in Reno with Roethlisberger.

    You're too young to be this jaded against the legal system. While good attorneys help a lot, being a celebrity isn't a guaranteed not guilty.

    I don't think everyone hates mike vick. I know I don't. He screwed up, but paid a VERY large price, he went bankrupt, did 18 months in jail.

    He paid his price in full. He is an example of his celebrity status hurting his cause. The legal system made an example of him, by giving him nearly the maximum penalty. Whereas Stallworth killed a man and left him to die and didn't do a month.

    People make mistakes, and I really think he'll turn his life around.
    I wasn't necessarily saying I believe these individuals did or did not
    do they're corresponding crimes. I was moreso stating that they were
    accused of them and no on ever thought twice about it.

    And everyone doesn't hate Mike Vick, but surely there are more haters than supporters.

    I agree that Vick paid his price; bankruptcy, jail time and a league suspension. Most others seem to not understand this however and that's what I am getting at.

    And Stallworth is serving a year in jail...

    I also truly believe that Vick has changed and will turn his life around.
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    Burress gets two years jail time on his weapons charge.
    That seems excessive to me.
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    i don't think it was excessive
    T.I. got 366 days.
    Burress supposedly has 20 months.
    Plus, T.I. did like 100 hours community service, or was it 1000? I think 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhs189 View Post
    i don't think it was excessive
    T.I. got 366 days.
    Burress supposedly has 20 months.
    Plus, T.I. did like 100 hours community service, or was it 1000? I think 100.

    TI had federal charges against him for having a machine gun, he should have received more time. Burress got lucky, if he had gone to trial it would have been a minimum 3 year sentence, that is the law there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhs189 View Post
    I wasn't necessarily saying I believe these individuals did or did not
    do they're corresponding crimes. I was moreso stating that they were
    accused of them and no on ever thought twice about it.

    And everyone doesn't hate Mike Vick, but surely there are more haters than supporters.

    I agree that Vick paid his price; bankruptcy, jail time and a league suspension. Most others seem to not understand this however and that's what I am getting at.

    And Stallworth is serving a year in jail...

    I also truly believe that Vick has changed and will turn his life around.
    Stallworth served 24days in jail and was released and has paid the family.

    People did think twice about Kobe and Ray. Here is Colorado Kobe was a big case and people hated him until they found out that the women would not testify. People still believe that Ray Lewis commited the crime and is a murderer. Your fist post said something different than what you said here. You said that Ray Lewis killed someone, not that he was accused and people did not care.

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    Vick paid his debt to society. I'm cool with him getting another shot. I can be disgusted by his actions (which I am), but be willing to give a man a chance to change.

    Burress had an opportunity to do less than 2 years, but refused to deal early, essentially saying he was bigger than the system. He's lucky it's not more time.

    The Stallworth thing is disgraceful, IMO. 24 days in jail and a settlement to the family...maybe the family needs the money more, but I'd want the guy responsible for the death of my family member to spend the maximum in jail.
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