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    So apparently there is a coordinated effort to shout down Democrats at town hall meetings. I am thinking this could get really interesting as I am guessing there will be a "counter-attack" of sorts from those on the otherside. We don't get town meetings in little ol' Parker, but if there was one nearby, I think I could have a little fun testing how tough these agitators really are.

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    "This mob ... did not come just to be heard, but to deny others the right to be heard. And this appears to be part of a coordinated, nationwide effort," Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, said in a statement. "What could be more appropriate for the 'party of no' than having its stalwarts drowning out the voices of their neighbors by screaming 'Just say no!'"
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    I think I nailed this one - it is a huge national story now.

    FWIW, I am going to look around for a town hall meeting to attend. I have been bored to booze this summer due to medical issues..... I need an adrenilin rush. It will be a hoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    I think I nailed this one - it is a huge national story now.

    FWIW, I am going to look around for a town hall meeting to attend. I have been bored to booze this summer due to medical issues..... I need an adrenilin rush. It will be a hoot.
    Not everyone who attends these meeting is part of some coordinated effort. Some are legitimately angry at what's going on. Their anger is real. Often times, it may be based on misinformation but the anger and frustration are legitimate emotions. Unfortunately, many times, the Congressperson or Senator evades answering a direct question which leads to a higher degree of anger and frustration.

    The Stimulus Plan was passed/approved before the ink was dry. Many people who now read what's in the Plan are pissed because the vast majority of the Plan is not stimulative, it's social re-engineering. The Energy Plan was passed/approved less than 8 hours after members of Congress (or the general public) had received it.

    Now we have a Healthcare Reform Plan and it's contents, what it means, what's in it, is still a big mystery for most Americans. I believe many Americans, even some Obama supporters, would like to know exactly what's in the 1100 page (rounded number) document that is "reforming" healthcare in this country. We may not be happy with the status quo, but sometimes "the evil you know is better than the evil you don't know" (paraphrased from someone but I'm too lazy too look up the original author).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgallan View Post
    So apparently there is a coordinated effort to shout down Democrats at town hall meetings. I am thinking this could get really interesting as I am guessing there will be a "counter-attack" of sorts from those on the otherside. We don't get town meetings in little ol' Parker, but if there was one nearby, I think I could have a little fun testing how tough these agitators really are.

    A link.....

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090804/...are_overhaul_7

    "This mob ... did not come just to be heard, but to deny others the right to be heard. And this appears to be part of a coordinated, nationwide effort," Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, said in a statement. "What could be more appropriate for the 'party of no' than having its stalwarts drowning out the voices of their neighbors by screaming 'Just say no!'"
    That's right it could never be the fact that people don't like what the politicians are ramming down their throat....all the major polls say so.

    But I guess it as Pelosi said "they are too well dressed"...lol what a joke the Democrats are making of this. Instead of going after other politicians they are going after private citizens, this is going to be good.

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    At the meeting where the featured speaker was Secretary of Health Kathleen Sebelius, the crowd boo'ed the first person who appeared at the podium -- the director of the museum that was hosting the meeting -- to welcome those who had gathered.

    Now, is that a genuine expression of concern and a legitimate airing of differences... or being primed for a fight?

    I hope the host decided there would be no punch and cookies afterward. ;-)

    Mark

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    We know it happens on both sides. Rep. Tancredo was forced to stop speaking at a town hall in N. Carolina on Duke campus after the people got violent, there is a video. At almost everyone of McCain's town halls he had a similar issue. It is to bad because I like town hall meetings

    FWIW I think the real downfall of the town hall started with whoever decided to pre-select the audience and the questions asked, instead of it being an open forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyFan View Post
    Not everyone who attends these meeting is part of some coordinated effort. Some are legitimately angry at what's going on. Their anger is real. Often times, it may be based on misinformation but the anger and frustration are legitimate emotions. Unfortunately, many times, the Congressperson or Senator evades answering a direct question which leads to a higher degree of anger and frustration.

    The Stimulus Plan was passed/approved before the ink was dry. Many people who now read what's in the Plan are pissed because the vast majority of the Plan is not stimulative, it's social re-engineering. The Energy Plan was passed/approved less than 8 hours after members of Congress (or the general public) had received it.

    Now we have a Healthcare Reform Plan and it's contents, what it means, what's in it, is still a big mystery for most Americans. I believe many Americans, even some Obama supporters, would like to know exactly what's in the 1100 page (rounded number) document that is "reforming" healthcare in this country. We may not be happy with the status quo, but sometimes "the evil you know is better than the evil you don't know" (paraphrased from someone but I'm too lazy too look up the original author).

    Legitimate concerns are fine, but to go to just shout down the Senators, or Congressman..... almost all Democrats, is not legitimate discourse. And now that the other side is has decided to fight back there will be actual fights (and there was last night and several were arrested). I don't think that is the point of a town meeting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    We know it happens on both sides. Rep. Tancredo was forced to stop speaking at a town hall in N. Carolina on Duke campus after the people got violent, there is a video. At almost everyone of McCain's town halls he had a similar issue. It is to bad because I like town hall meetings

    FWIW I think the real downfall of the town hall started with whoever decided to pre-select the audience and the questions asked, instead of it being an open forum.
    Another thing that is happening is - instead of these being about health care - people are going just to disrupt, and the disruptions having nothing to do with healthcare.
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    People can be such dicks. It disgusts me sometimes.

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