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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    Why does 1812 not count?
    He's probably never heard of the War of 1812, thats why...

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    Some say that Mexico is invading the USA now. Seriously. It is alledged to be part of a long term plan to allow Mexico to reaquire Texas, California, et al, which the United States "stole" from Mexico in the 1800s. Fundamental to this would be what is being taught to Hispanic youths both in Mexico and in certain communities in the USA: that important and valuable land was stolen from the Mexican people, at the point of the gun, and it is their destiny that it be reaquired. A "reconquista".

    I was distracted by this concept when attempting to see if Santa Anna had actually invaded the USA proper. He didn't.
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    On peace lovers:

    "Progressives" insist on policies that would only work if we were a different species.

    That's a constant theme.



    Now with advances in genetics it would seem theoretically possible to modify our species. All under government direction of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
    As my dads friend says maybe americas problem is that we never been invaded.
    The last real invasion (War of 1812) is way beyond our collective memory. I am not counting the civil war, and I also think we learned our lesson there and it stuck.
    The effects of wars are very remote for the vast majority of us civilians. If we were to see war up close, it is possible that we as a society would have less desire to use America's military might.
    Although this theory did not work so well in Europe for the 100 or so years leading up to WWII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    I mentioned the Civil war but not as an invasion, however after the south seceded they essentially became an invading force once they crossed into the North American territories. Could the same be said about the North invading the south?
    I kinda thought that was more of a..... miltary show of power they were force out real quick

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Richardson View Post
    1. The video was focused on WWI and WWII, not Iraq, Afganistan, or any of the other "unpopular" wars.
    2. I am not convinced that the intervention in Iraq is based on oil (my understanding is that we didn't buy much from them before, and we are not buying much from them now - their market is primarily European.) I suspect the "war for oil" is a convenient arguement for those who are anti-war, or more importantly, anti-Bush. History will tell, I suppose, but I strongly suspect the Iraqi people are a LOT better off now then they were a few years ago, and with potential for even greater progress. Complex issues rarely have simple causes or simple solutions.
    3. Regardless of the conflict in discussion, peace is still not a unilateral issue. "What if they held a war and nobody came?" is a great bumper sticker, but a rather distorted view of reality.
    Other Great But Moronic Peace Stickers
    1.
    Yes you can... its called making yourself so powerful no one wants to attack
    2.
    It sure was for Hitler
    3.
    Then why arent you walking?
    4.
    Removing genocidal dictators for one.
    5.
    This coming from someone that wants to let Obama run all our health care
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    Actually war is one the greatest motivations for innovation in all of mankind
    7.
    If thats true you cant be pro-choice and pro-baby
    8.
    False. There once was a dictatorship, there is now a democracy.
    9.
    So does abortion (millions of them actually)
    10.
    Yeah... that sure worked for Tibet

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    I think that seeing war up close and in our back yards would have a tremendous effect on Americans' opinions. I believe seeing their neighborhood shelled and their friends killed would open some eyes. I believe there would be unprecedented support for America's military to do whatever it took to drive the aggressors not only from our land, but from the world. I know it seems hard for some to remember, but try. Remember the public outcry after 9/11? Somehow, plenty of Americans have forgotten what transpired that day.
    As for Iraq, we removed a cancer from the body of Earth. Period. If you have any questions about that, go ask the Kurds. They'll be more than happy to tell you about weapons of mass destruction.(well, maybe not so happy, but they'll tell you)
    It's funny how "history" is viewed. People tend to forget the things that doesn't suit their current "agenda".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaneinBatonRouge View Post
    I think that seeing war up close and in our back yards would have a tremendous effect on Americans' opinions. I believe seeing their neighborhood shelled and their friends killed would open some eyes. I believe there would be unprecedented support for America's military to do whatever it took to drive the aggressors not only from our land, but from the world. I know it seems hard for some to remember, but try. Remember the public outcry after 9/11? Somehow, plenty of Americans have forgotten what transpired that day.
    As for Iraq, we removed a cancer from the body of Earth. Period. If you have any questions about that, go ask the Kurds. They'll be more than happy to tell you about weapons of mass destruction.(well, maybe not so happy, but they'll tell you)
    It's funny how "history" is viewed. People tend to forget the things that doesn't suit their current "agenda".
    We have had war on our soil and after every time we have ever been attacked there has been a balloon of enlistments and our public reaction has always been to kill whoever did it and whoever harbors who did it.

    It is funny how "History" is misrepresented when it suits an agenda or if you haven't looked into to it fully.

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    M Richardson,

    Instead of the "War for Iraqi Oil", should we then call it the "The War of Iraqi Succession"?

    That would put it in a long historical line of such-named wars.
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