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    Default Re: Does Obama get a free pass from the press?

    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    The team comparison is not a good one since teams can be measured in more objective terms. They favored his ideas while campaigning and they don't run negative articles on him now. News anchors have a glow on their face when his name comes up.

    What is the good that he has done that would make your team example fit? Gas prices are back on the rise (more than doubled since he took office), he's quadrupling the highest-ever deficit, he pushed through a stimulus to stop 9% unemployment and we got that anyways, he's allowing Iran to get nuclear capabilities when he said he would do all he can to stop them as a candidate (he understands an OPEC country's need for nuclear power without addressing our need for it). The media will instead let him blame everything that doesn't go well on Bush and when something does go well, he'll get credit for that. If it takes 2 years for the economy to turn around (which would be the slowest recovery since the great depression), they'll let him blame those 2 years on Bush and thank him for magically navigating a phoenix from the ashes.
    The team comparision is just a counterpoint to the argument that his press coverage can be graded objectively by deciding if an article is negative or positive and then conting the percent of positives v. negatives, and then comparing that percentage to other presidents. Some presidents do a better job than others, and while unlike sports teams we cannot objectively measure a President's performance, the team or the Pesident who is performing better will get better press coverage.

    As far as your question about what has Obama done - it is too early to expect results from any of his policies, but he has been dealt one of the worst hands an incoming President could possibly have nad has made calm rational decisions and actions. He has successfully steered the middle ground on many divisive issues and while this has pissed off both the extreme on the left and right and is winning the confidence and trust of most of America.

    I won't respond point by point to each of your specific criticism, but for those for remember the early Reagan years, he blamed Carter for years

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    Default Re: Does Obama get a free pass from the press?

    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    They [presumably a reference to the media] favored his ideas while campaigning and they don't run negative articles on him now. News anchors have a glow on their face when his name comes up.
    In the face of a blogpiece and article in Newsweek unfavorable to Obama on this thread, you declare that "they" don't run negative articles on him now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    In the face of a blogpiece and article in Newsweek unfavorable to Obama on this thread, you declare that "they" don't run negative articles on him now.
    I don't think Clmetal was speaking in absolutes when he said they don't run negative articles.

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    Default Re: Does Obama get a free pass from the press?

    He didn't modify or qualify his claim. Words have meaning, nay, consequences. Right-wingers like to mouth platitudes about "personal responsibility" but when it come time to take accountability for their statements or positions, they often don't want to take any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    In the face of a blogpiece and article in Newsweek unfavorable to Obama on this thread, you declare that "they" don't run negative articles on him now.
    I have a magazine (newsweek I think) where the cover story is "Obama is Wrong", so there's at leat some negative press coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    He didn't modify or qualify his claim. Words have meaning, nay, consequences. Right-wingers like to mouth platitudes about "personal responsibility" but when it come time to take accountability for their statements or positions, they often don't want to take any.
    You are so full of shit man. You were just trying to be a jerk and once again not contributing anything to the conversation. Maybe next time if he stated that 8000 out of 8200 (hypathetical numbers) were positive stories and then make his comment would be better. Would that work for you?

    Then you go on to talk about "right-wingers" and yet you do the same thing your hypocracy amazes me but keep it up man because it makes me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance174 View Post
    Are you sure about that? I would have to research this again but I thought that most of the press was positive for Obama both when he was going against Clinton and McCain.
    I'm positive. Ban Basketball started a thread with a link to the study back when it came out. There used to be a way to look up past threads started by a poster but that option seems to have gone away otherwise I'd pull up the link.
    There's no such thing as a pretty good aligator wrestler.

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    Default Re: Does Obama get a free pass from the press?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chance174 View Post
    You are so full of shit man. You were just trying to be a jerk and once again not contributing anything to the conversation. Maybe next time if he stated that 8000 out of 8200 (hypathetical numbers) were positive stories and then make his comment would be better. Would that work for you?

    Then you go on to talk about "right-wingers" and yet you do the same thing your hypocracy amazes me but keep it up man because it makes me laugh.
    I'm just calling things as I see them. False or misleading statements are likely to engender comment. If I didn't say anything, then someone might get the impression that bullshit remarks are acceptable. If that doesn't fit your definition of contributing to the conversation, too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    I'm just calling things as I see them. False or misleading statements are likely to engender comment. If I didn't say anything, then someone might get the impression that bullshit remarks are acceptable. If that doesn't fit your definition of contributing to the conversation, too bad.
    Once again you are full of shit. How was his remark bullshit, he was speaking in general. All you can do is pick out one instance in which Obama was given negative press (which that is debatable) instead of talking about the overall theme.

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