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    Quote Originally Posted by washed up wrestler View Post
    Maybe because they develop shitty cars? Every American car I bought in the past was vastly inferior to the Honda's that I have driven since.

    Americans will pay for quality. Then again, it's easy to blame those POS union workers and those POS unions.

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    In general American cars have very similar qulity to Japanes cars and better than all Europena cars, including German cars.
    Their reputation is still in the dumps because they were so far behind for so many years.

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    Well, let's see. My Honda's both got well over 150,000 miles and I would have definitely gotten more if I didn't want to get a newer model. The most I ever got out of an American car through the years was 120 max and that was only one car.

    Blown tranny's, blown engines and various other problems along the way. Like I said, Americans would be willing to buy Detroit's product if it had equal to or better quality than a decent foreign automobile...oh, and one other point-vastly superior gas mileage. This is exactly why foreign automakers have been eating their shorts IMO.

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    I have two newer American cars and both are over 110,000 miles with no major issues. Simple maintnence that is all.

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    No I didn't read it but would be interested in it if you can give a link.
    http://www.gladwell.com/2006/2006_08_28_a_risk.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by washed up wrestler View Post
    Well, let's see. My Honda's both got well over 150,000 miles and I would have definitely gotten more if I didn't want to get a newer model. The most I ever got out of an American car through the years was 120 max and that was only one car.

    Blown tranny's, blown engines and various other problems along the way. Like I said, Americans would be willing to buy Detroit's product if it had equal to or better quality than a decent foreign automobile...oh, and one other point-vastly superior gas mileage. This is exactly why foreign automakers have been eating their shorts IMO.
    What year were the US autos you had trouble with?
    US was way behind in the 1980's made major improvements in the 1990's and had caught up to the best in the world during the 2000s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloggingSully View Post
    Great article.
    Should be a required read for anybody who wants to blame "greedy unions" or "incompetant management" for the demise of the Big Three.

    Some of the numbers are astounding:

    In 1962, G.M. had four hundred and sixty-four thousand U.S. employees and was paying benefits to forty thousand retirees and their spouses...Last year, it had a hundred and forty-one thousand workers and paid benefits to four hundred and fifty-three thousand retirees


    The American manufacturing operations of Toyota, [has] a mere two hundred and fifty-eight retirees

    Companies are already abandonning traditional pensions for 401K's it would seem the next step is to eliminate company sponsored health care.

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    We have a 1997 Ford Explorer w/ 190,000 miles on it and a 2001 Ford Escape with 140,000. We bought them both new and maintained them well.
    "All my life I have tried to pluck a thistle and plant a flower wherever the flower would grow in thought and mind." -- Abraham Lincoln

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    Running at just over 200,000 on my Crown Vic - thinking about getting something new and turning this over to one of my kids. I figure it will go another 100,000.

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