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    Brought up as a Lutheran - always dutifully recited the Nicene Creed, the Lord's Prayer, etc. but prayed that communion wouldn't make us miss the start of the Packers' game that Sunday.....Even went through a short stint in college where I considered eventually making the leap to being a "born-again" Christian.

    However, the more I studied history and the more I studied about all the terrible things that humans have done to other human beings, I began to ponder how an omnipotent god would ever allow such tragedies....until I eventually came to my present standing of being agnostic/atheist.
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    Wasn't raised religous and have only been to church a handful of times in my life.

    I believe that there is some sort of higher order to the universe (meaning that there is more going on than atoms moving around in the void, to get philosophical for a second) but I don't necessarily believe that that higher order consists of an all seeing, all knowing, perfectly good person.

    I'd say my views probably fit the concept of Deism the best if I had to pigeonhole myself into one "view".

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    The Official State of my Beliefs is thus:
    Raised Protestant (Evangelical Covenant). Stopped going to church at age 14, after a big fight with my Dad. Today: agnostic I guess. Religion is still interesting to me, though, because of its history and influence on people, and I believe that a great deal of what I think of as "living right", "the good", or "proper human behavior", I probably learned as a child in church.

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    Baptist until reaching 10th grade or so.

    All the guys and gals around my age at the church we attended were hypocritical sinners. Despite consigning ourselves to Hell, we went ahead with our lusting and fornicating.

    My current beliefs have been detailed in my philosophy "Universalism". It can be summarized in 6 words: The universe is that it is.
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    Grew up in the Luthern Church. Mostly C & E (Christmas and Easter) christian at that point. After graduating from high school, I quit going altogether. Started search for a void that I felt was in my life around the age 25. I think I have attended every possible evangelical church including Jehovah Witness. Came to find a nitch 12 years ago as a born-again christian. Don't think I could go a day now without my faith.

    I think a lot of folks get wrapped up in what Jim and Bob Hypocrite are doing instead of worrying about "numero uno". I try not to get wraped up in anyone elses affairs at church and just worry about working out my own salvation. Do I fail? Yes, then I pick myself back up, brush myself off and continue down the road.
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    Glad this thread has attracted some interest. The slightly longer explanation of my beliefs:

    I would consider myself Christian, as someone who believes the basic foundational doctrines of Christianity (ie apostle's creed, Nicene creed). I do questions some common (though not IMO foundational) Christian ideas, such as young-earth creationism, Biblical Inerrancy and the idea that everyone else is going to burn in hell forever.

    A strong influence on my faith was my grandparents who were missionaries in Africa and basically superheroes of the religious world, with a bunch of stories about demon-possession, cured cancer, and all those exciting things.

    Another big influence on faith was a time I spent doing missions in prison when I was staying in South Africa. I learned two things there: a) the Christian faith can have a huge positive impact on people, to the point of changing rapists and murderers into positive people and b) a lot of Christians are dishonest jerks. So fluctuate a lot between faith and cynicism.
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    Arm spin, Nice post, you do well not to sweat the three cited non foundational beliefs. Your grandparents sound like great people. And yes Christians can be jerks, God is perfect, we all have feet of clay

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    I believe... the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way.


    No really, here is a set of beliefs that I can live by. It's from one of mentors, Robert Fulghum.

    "I believe that imagination is stronger than knowledge -
    That myth is more potent than history,
    I believe that dreams are more powerful than facts -
    That hope always triumphs over experience -
    That laughter is the only cure for grief.
    And I believe that love is stronger than death."

    -- Robert Fulghum

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    Raised Baptist -figured t was a crock -as was all organized religion -around 15 .If I had to admit to following one line of thinking it would be the Cathar heresy was correct -this world is imperfect -therefore a perfect , loving god could not have created it -this planet is satan's domain and the only way off it is through the 4 noble truths and the 8 fold path of budddhism-where the onus of salvation is your responsability and not some unindentified entity -there is NO such thing as original sin and the bible is a manipulative propaganda tool-I also am a reader of Mr. Fulghum and believe 'everything I need to know I learned in Kindergarden ''-but I skipped Kindergarden .
    Loyolla once said 'give me the child and I will give you the man you want .'' Really, how many of you atheists can recite the lord's prayer ?? That stuff has been deeply ingrained upon your psyche .

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