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08-10-2008, 12:11 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Response to payton@att.net re:WW2. As I mentioned I prefer for further discussions to be public. Rather than fear criticism I consider other viewpoints valuable and welcome them.
"it is just so inmtriguing to me that one may not even question the event or research it w/out going to jail-
It certainly is not intriguing to me. It's crystal clear. There is active anti-semitism in this world. It's a particularly virulent strain when combined with neo-nazism. To question the holocaust has been a despicable, but nevertheless, effective strategy (look at your own doubt) to undercut any moral standing that Israel may have for it's very existence. Too many of the young across the world have been seduced by those who don't care that they are revising history as they pursue their own political agendas.
"If we were truly a neutral country why and how did Roosevelt get away with the Lend /Lease program "
Another easy one. Think for a moment. Whoever said that we were "truly neutral"? Why would we be? Hitler certainly didn't think we were. Also an interesting choice with the words "get away with". A number of ways you could have worded that and you pick one with a negative connotation, as if Roosevelt did something wrong. Roosevelt did what was NECESSARY, to the best of his abililty. Great Britain absolutely required our help against Nazi Germany.
"I am not a nazi or a neo-nazi -but"
OMG. You have used the "but monkey" immediately following the assertion that you are not a nazi or neo-nazi.
"I am just frustrated beyond belief -it as if I see the briefest glimpse of something then it disappears."
Please translate or elaborate.
"I am sorry to have troubled you ."
Horseshit. Investigating your two questions led to my viewing things that angered and alarmed me. I'm rather glad I took the trouble, now. It's been instructive.
My first question was the exact date of "Bloody Sunday". Can you answer?
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08-10-2008, 12:47 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Response to payton@att.net re:WW2. I don't know the exact date but the year was 1939-when 58,000 Germans were killed by Polish Bolsheviks -
As for your being angered and alarmed I can't do anything about that -I do not question the Holocaust but the fact that no one may question the holocaust bothers me -
WW2 was started for reasons other than what i was told in High school -I want to know why 54,000,000.00 people died .
I question these things because they are happening again as we speak -will this nonsense ever stop -is it HUMAN or OTHERLY ?
I asked you because you mentioned the Danzig corridor -something I never heard of til recently-
WW1-WW2- Korea- Viet Nam -Iraq-when does it stop ? Why does it start ?
The Tibetian book of the dead states war's are fought so Demons can feed -I don't want to believe that but it is as viable an answer as I have found . | | |
08-10-2008, 12:58 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Response to payton@att.net re:WW2. Whoops, I'm taking it for granted that dots are going to get connected. I have to append an addition to my first paragraph below your first quote that I copied:
Since responsible authorities know that
1. antisemitism is all-too alive and well, and
2. that the fact of the holocaust is being used as a political football, and
3. that gullible youth are being seduced by the bandishments of the antisemitic and anti-Israelic, and
4. that said youth are being seriously led astray from historic truth (and not just the youth--but others who are susceptible or prone to believing the worst about Jewish),
then it makes perfect sense to me that said authorities do all that they can legally do to fight these devilish designs.
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08-10-2008, 01:04 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Response to payton@att.net re:WW2. "I don't know the exact date but the year was 1939"
Well, FIND IT. You know it was on a Sunday, I presume. You say you have studied WW2. If so then you should suspect where I am headed here. Seems pretty convenient that all of the sudden the date is unavailable.
I'm calling bullshit right now on this purported Bloody Sunday. GIVE ME A DATE so that I may thoroughly slam dunk this notion to the satisfation of any objective reader. I am armed and ready with dates of other occurences where plenty of German documentation exists, that would be mutually exclusive to this insidious notion put forth by neo-nazis and other anti-semites that there was a Bloody Sunday.
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08-10-2008, 01:07 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Response to payton@att.net re:WW2. Now my second question.
Do you hold to your view that it was this Bloody Sunday that "forced Hitler's hand (your words)" and attack Poland?
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08-10-2008, 02:02 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Response to payton@att.net re:WW2. September 3,1939-the treaty of Versailles took away the DC and Hitler probably used his attack as an excuse to take it back -
you can call ''bull-shit '' all you want -I don't like going to some of these sites but they report these events when no one else will -you can go to Wikipedia for the facts .
You can also go to youtube and see some of the atrocities -look under Bromberg bloody sunday .
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08-10-2008, 02:09 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Response to payton@att.net re:WW2. Also , in one of your postsd on Georgia-you claim they were INCITED just as the germans were -which side of the fence are you on today ? | | |
08-10-2008, 02:30 PM
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Tournaments Joined: 2 Tournament Wins: 1 | Re: Response to payton@att.net re:WW2.
Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net I don't know the exact date but the year was 1939-when 58,000 Germans were killed by Polish Bolsheviks | You may want to drop your 58,000 number down to around 300-400. Although if you saw it in a Youtube video, it must be true.
Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net September 3,1939 | Two days after your homeboy Hitler had violated Polish sovereignty when he invaded the country.
We need a Mao apologist now to complete the trifecta, Big loves comrade Stalin, and rpayton apparently has a hard one for Hitler. Big could probably fill the Mao void if he really wanted to, but given that Russian commies, and Chinese commies hate each other he may not want to. | | |
08-10-2008, 03:06 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Response to payton@att.net re:WW2. the 58,000 # comes from the months before the Bromberg incident -I don'tgive a shxt about Hitler , Mao or Lenin -just the Human race -are we this evil?-
Maybe the Aztec calendar is right and judgement day is around the corner -if so -we, as a race-are in trouble .
Maybe the freemasons -or Pike -are right in saying Satan is the ruler of this world . I can't say whether Pike speaks for all Freemasons but I think he does according to Morals and Dogma . | | |
08-10-2008, 03:54 PM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Response to payton@att.net re:WW2.
Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net September 3,1939-the treaty of Versailles took away the DC and Hitler probably used his attack as an excuse to take it back -
you can call ''bull-shit '' all you want -I don't like going to some of these sites but they report these events when no one else will -you can go to Wikipedia for the facts .
You can also go to youtube and see some of the atrocities -look under Bromberg bloody sunday . | Wikipedia? That's the first thing I tried. It's only reference to a bloody sunday in the Polish conflict was Sept 10, 1939 when 17 bombing raids were run consecutively on Warsaw by Germany.
Did it ever occur that those sites that you "don't like going to" are lying to you? Ever suspect that and try to research it further. Thre are contractory German records that cast doubt on your assertions repeated from the neo-nazi websites.
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