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    I still don't get why people are upset, if they don't break the law they have nothing to worry about.
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    $1100 for a speeding ticket is quite a hit in the pocketbook for anyone.
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    It sounds like we all agree it's a bad move on the state's part. I see the one supporter (the guy from AAA) says it will cut down on traffic deaths, but that doesn't explain how driving without a license (which I assume includes an expired license) should result in a $1,000 fine.

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    I still don't get why people are upset, if they don't break the law they have nothing to worry about.
    Again, I understand that philosophy but the trouble I have is that it increases the conflict between law enforcement and the motorist. I also understand cops get paid to deal with those conflicts but this seems to be an extreme change with little benefit. The spark point now is between the average joe driver and the cops. The number of average joe drivers that lose their licenses for this will certainly increase, and it increases the time cops have to put with the senseless bs arguing at the traffic stop delaying them from other duties, it will probably increase the number of assaults on officers, and increase the number of warrant arrests, etc. All for what purpose?

    Let me ask this, if everyone complys with the law, how does the legislature then deal with the expanding road costs? They created this potentially violent confrontation between generally law abiding citizens and their local law enforcement officer for no real gain whatsoever.

    In my narrow opinion, raising roadway usage revenue should be done through tolls, increasing registration, and/or increasing taxes.

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    All I have to say is thank god (little g) that I moved from Virginia to PA. I have a few tickets that, in hindsight, would have probably left me flat broke.

    I was complaining about my $500 fine for public swearing in college -- as a side note, I was one of FOUR people in Norfolk in 2003 to get hit with that charge.

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    Be a $7 parking ticket or a $3,000 civil penalty, just call it random taxation.

    Starting July 4 the towns in the northern counties are being paid by the state to maintain a speeding ticket blitz. They call it "Obey the Sign or Pay the Fine". The state ceding them extra funds to pay overtime for officers that need to be called in to cover those that are running the speed traps.

    .....Just call it....Random Taxation - a revenue generator...

    The town gets to keep the fine and any courts cost assessed - upwards of $100 per ticket uncontested. $150 if you take it to court (a guaranteed loss). The state tacks on a $150 civil penalty.

    For every $5,000 paid to the towns to run the program, the towns expect to net $25,000

    .....Just call it....Random Taxation - a revenue generator...

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    I'm sorry, but if you do the crime, you do the time. Virginians will clearly know the law (it seems as if it is being pretty well-publicized) so maybe they will obey it. Ridiculous amounts of people die in car accidents every year - maybe hitting people in their pocket book is one place they usually notice. The other effect it could have is that maybe people will be more likely to take public trans/a bike/their feet. If you've ever been in northern VA at rush hour, you know that this is a good thing.

    Random kind of related story: I worked in DC when Jordan was playing for the Wizards. A guy that I knew, who knew MJ, told me that MJ had recently bought a sweet new Aston Martin convertible but he was afraid to take it out in Virginia because he had gotten too any speeding tickets there. I'm not saying that Michael should be above the law, but it cracked me up to think that there are cops who would give him a ticket!

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    Have any of you ever tried to drive 55 on an interstate? You might as well be walking. Pm01's concerns notwithstanding (although I agree that the messenger [enforcer] will catch the brunt of the public's ire here), what ever happened to having the punishment fit the crime? Those fines are simply outrageous for the infraction of exceeding the speed limit by a few mph (even 10 or 15). And to have the gall to admit that they are being levied not because they are appropriate to the offense but because they will generate revenue - some Virginian lawmakers clearly keep their heads where the sun don't shine.
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    Talked to my mom about this today ... she totally expects lawmakers to make a change when one of our elected officials gets hit and can't get out of the ticket.

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