Zapp Brannigan

P.S. Hilarious sexist controversies while having no remorse: Hernandez 1, Mattingly 0.

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matclone

Is that why Hernandez won the MVP? Because he wasn't considered the best player?

Zapp Brannigan

1979. And he had several other GREAT seasons. I'm with you matclone.

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MetsFan

I think you may have missed the point. It's a "different game" in the NL.

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matclone

Oops, I edited my message after I realized that 1982 wasn't the year. Thanks for the correction, Zapp.

Zapp Brannigan

Completely irrelevant. The AL allows an entire category of players to only do half of the job.

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MetsFan

TWO categories - pitchers & designated hitters.
And, more importantly, it changes the game - situations are different, use of players is different, decision-making is different (both for managers and on-field players), etc.

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DingoBrigade

Let's be even more accurate...he was CO-MVP. He hit 11 HRs that year and drove in 105, the only season in his entire career he had more than 100 RBI. Also the only year his SLG was over .500.

On the other hand, Mattingly was a true MVP, sharing the award with no one else. Thus, considered the BEST player. Not one of the very best.

From 84-87, Mattingly averaged roughly 30 HRs and over 120 RBI, with a post-.500 SLG in each of those seasons. Also, he was a 9X Gold Glove winner, so the gap in fielding isn't as large as the gap in hitting.

In each player's prime:
Hernandez was a 3rd in the lineup guy. High OBP, low power for a 1b. As mentioned one of the best, if not the very best, fielders at 1b ever. 11X Gold Glove.

Mattingly was a true cleanup hitter, hitting for high average and high slugging percentage. Lots of runs accounted for, struck out less than Hernandez. 9X Gold Glove in a shorter career hurt badly by injury.

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matclone

Yeah, like Cael was co-Hodge. I bet they didn't give him half a trophy as your comment suggests.

Is that like a true American? How many true MVPs have we had in baseball history? And whose wasn't really true? That reminds me of those wrestlers who are criticized because they didn't win with style.

DingoBrigade

Um, what part of THE VERY BEST don't you understand? That means 1 person.

Co-MVP means at least 2.

Is it that complicated for you?

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