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    Since the topic took a change to childhood obesity i will give my 2 cents.
    I teach Physical Eduction at a high school in Southern California and we must meet state testing standards which consist of the mile run, push-ups, sit-ups, V-sit, trunk lift, and BMI (Body Mass Index-height/weight). New laws are soon going into place for the state of California that requires all freshman to pass this test, if they fail they need to continue to take Physical Education until they pass this test or graduate high school. They will have to be in P.E. every semester throughout their high school career if they don't pass, eating up their electives that they may rather be in.
    Here is my districts problems: 70% of the students failed at the initial test. By the end of the second semester 50% of the freshman failed. If every freshman class continues with this high failure rate, there will be too many P.E. classes. Every student must take 2 years of P.E. and the ones that fail need to continue to take P.E there will be too many students for the limited number of teachers.
    Further evaluation of the subject, the majority of the failure was coming from the BMI and mile run (the standards are not that hard). We started to find out what could lead to better results in the BMI. We had our students start a food log, they had to record everything they ate. It was truly disturbing...Our students eat the same pizza and burgers from our school cafeteria (70% of my students are on free or reduced lunch-so they have to eat at the school cafeteria).
    Long winded story coming to a close-
    We have alot of work ahead of us if we don't want to end up an obese nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greco-ZAG View Post
    I just took my daughter to see the new movie WALL-E and it portrayed the human civilization as super extreme fat lazy people. Do to the technology,we do not have to do anything and we get fat, lazy and even somewhat dumb. I know it is far fetched but I was amazed that Pixar would go controversial. I actually sat next to some overweight people and they were getting upset at the portrayal.
    Are we going to end up fat lazy people that have carts roll us everywhere?
    There was other morals to the movie other then obesity. If you watched it you should of picked up on the reason why they left. Which was because they trashed there planet. And I'm pretty sure It explains in the movie how they got that big. Because of the low density in space, which is why most astronauts have to exercise because of the effects on there bones.
    But I do see a lot of people overweight people and its sad because its a problem that is that needs looking into. Some of the health problems that stem from being overweight go way beyond the ones we usually hear about, like diabetes and heart disease. Being overweight can also effect a person's joints, breathing, sleep, mood, and energy levels. So being overweight can impact a person's entire quality of life. So its not just an appernce issue.
    Last edited by zig; 09-21-2008 at 01:03 AM.

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    I probably shouldn't get started on this, but here goes. I AM FAT - not a little overweight - FAT. Go to my photos and see for yourself. I didn't start out as a chubby kid. I weighed 140 pounds when I graduated from college in 1974 and 150 pounds when I was 30. For purposes of an accurate post I just weighed myself - 242. I'm 5'7" and 58 years old. As you'd imagine, I have high blood pressure and bad knees.

    I consider myself a reasonably smart guy and I've studied obesity, men's health and weight loss more than you can imagine. Believe me, I know that I've done this to myself. Three times in the last 20 years I have lost over 50 pounds - the last time I lost 75, which I kept off for 4 years. That time I did it through Weight Watchers and for 3 years I had a part-time job as one of their very few male counselors. Then I got careless - I gained 80 pounds.

    Significant weight loss (more than 20% of your weight) has been proven to be one of the hardest health related tasks to accomplish. Less than 10% of those people that lose more than 20% of their weight are able to sustain that loss beyond 2 years.

    So what's the point of this ramble? It's far better to never gain the weight than it is to try to lose it. As a nation we are making it far easier for our kids to be obese than we are for them to be healthy. We'll cut schools' physical education and athletic budgets only to give that saved money back in rising health care costs later. We'll spend thousands of dollars on the latest video game technology and games and can't raise enough money to buy mats for a youth wrestling club. Our own obsession with restaurant dining gives kids a distorted perception of what food portion sizes should be.

    I get to babysit my 2 year-old granddaughter tonight and I spent more time planning this evening's activities and meal than I ever spend on my own. I don't want her ever to become like me.

    Ah hell, I think I'll quit typing and go for a walk.

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    gg121and2,
    The whoel reason I started this thread was summed up by your comments. I teach high school P.E. and coach wresting and both areas have had cuts in $. I actually wrote a grant last year explainig to the state what the long term effects were and the difference in cost between health care vs educational spending now. Short summery-hundreds of millions of $.
    We were awarded a one time $84,000 grant for Physical Education. We were able to spend about half of it to realign of P.E. classes to meet the state standards. The other half was snatched up by the school and spent on things that were not what the grant was meant for. The district told us that once it is given to the school, they can spend it on what they want and we should just be happy that we got what we got. I agree with you in the idea that we need to educate and help from becoming obese to begin with rather than let them get that way and try to help them lose the weight.
    Hopefully your 2 year old grand daughter will keep you chasing her around and you can get back down to a good goal weight. Do it all over again (lose weight) so you can watch her grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlottke View Post
    Yea, I know what you meant.. but it doesn't really have anything to do with technology.. South Korea & Japan are much more technologically advanced than the United States yet they remain healthy..

    can you please quantify or clarify how Japan and S.Korea are more technologically advanced than the United States of America?

    Because off hand, that sounds like one of the stupidest comments I've ever heard...

    Discuss.
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    Most Technologically Advanced Countries in the World, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit & IBM 2007 report:
    http://graphics.eiu.com/.../...ss_Ranking_WP.pdf

    1….Denmark
    =2…US
    =2…Sweden
    4….Hong Kong
    5….Switzerland
    6….Singapore
    7….UK
    8….Netherlands
    9….Austrailia
    10…Finland
    11…Austria
    12…Norway
    13…Canada
    14…New Zealand
    15…Bermuda
    16…South Korea
    17…Taiwan
    18…Japan
    19…Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatius J. Reilly View Post
    can you please quantify or clarify how Japan and S.Korea are more technologically advanced than the United States of America?

    Because off hand, that sounds like one of the stupidest comments I've ever heard...

    Discuss.
    Are we more technologically advanced because we can afford to buy or because we make it? Because last time I checked, we don't really make anything in this country anymore. And the things we do make are pretty much worthless.
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