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    Default I'll start it: Greatest Pitchers of All Time

    This is a spin-off of the All-Time Greatest Baseball Players thread.

    As was suggested, let's start with pitchers. Choose only three pitchers you think fit in this category. Use whatever standards you'd like.

    Mine (I went with three different eras, though Maddux and Santana do overlap of course):

    1) Greg Maddux. A pitcher's pitcher. Amazing control. His cerebral game is unmatched. His numbers aren't as gaudy as some (though he's up there in wins and some other categories). If I had to choose one pitcher to start a franchise with, it'd be Maddux. Of course he's my generation so I'm biased here. He's a true pitcher: Able to get the job done despite not having the best "stuff".

    2) Walter Johnson. Absolutely devastating in his time. I've only seen a documentary and read about him; however, his contemporaries' opinions and numbers register off the charts.

    3) Johan Santana. I wanted to add a younger player. Santana, barring injury, should end up as one of the most dominating southpaws to ever play. Having watched him in Minnesota for years, I appreciate his awesome stuff. He's won many, many games virtually on his own, and will continute to do so.

    (Honorable mention: Doc Gooden-in prime; Rube Waddell; Roger Clemens.)

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    Mine would be:

    1. Nolan Ryan - so many records and the ability to learn and adjust over the years. Just think what he could have done with some run support.

    2. Cy Young - There is a reason there is an award named after him.

    3. I will have to go with your pick of Johan Santana. The guy is amazing

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    Default Re: I'll start it: Greatest Pitchers of All Time

    Sandy Koufax - walked away in his prime yet look at those stats.

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    Default Re: I'll start it: Greatest Pitchers of All Time

    Sandy Koufax (the best 5 year stretch of any one before early retirement)
    Bob Gibson (the one pitcher to win one big game)

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    Surprised I got down to 5 replies before someone mentioned Bad Bob Gibson.

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    Default Re: I'll start it: Greatest Pitchers of All Time

    When I was still a lad, in the late 60s, and read everything I could on baseball, I remember a book (I'll call it the green book) naming an all-time position list. And it went something like this:

    RHP Walter Johnson
    LHP Christy Mathewson
    C Mickey Cochrane or Bill Dickey (I dont' remember which)
    1B Lou Gherig
    2B Rogers Hornsby
    3B Pie Traynor
    SS Honus Wagner
    OF Ty Cobb
    OF Babe Ruth
    OF Joe DiMaggio (I think) If not, then it was Stan Musial.

    On to pitchers: in my lifetime, I have to agree with TPay for the reasons stated.

    Gibson, Koufax, and Juan Marichal were the cream of the crop in their era. I'd say Koufax was better than anyone else (his stats surely suggest as much), but Gibson (also with great stats) was certainly a go-to guy, as shown by his performance in three world series. ('64, '67, and '68)
    Last edited by matclone; 06-11-2008 at 10:49 AM.

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    Default Re: I'll start it: Greatest Pitchers of All Time

    Lets see, just three...

    Koufax definitely has to be there, then I'll kick things a little more modern and throw Randy Johnson's, and a prime Pedro's name up for consideration.
    RIP Jacob Schlottke - 1984-2011

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