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    I know he may not be the best according to stats but he was good and helped the Yanks win a lot of championships. What about Whitey Ford?

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    My vote is for Bob Gibson:
    http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballp...ob_Gibson_1935
    from 1963 to 1972 Gibson averaged better than 19 wins per season. He struck out more than 200 batters nine times and led the NL four times in shutouts. In 1971 he no-hit the Pirates. Two aspects of Gibson's career demand special mention. In 1968 he pitched 13 shutouts on his way to a 1.12 ERA, the second-lowest since 1893 in 300 innings. During one stretch Gibson allowed only two runs over 92 innings. His strikeouts to innings ratio approached 1.0, while he walked only 62 batters all season. At one point he won fifteen games in succession. The second area in which Gibson proved phenomenal was World Series play. He won seven consecutive games and pitched eight straight complete games in World Series competition... In the opening match of the 1968 classic, Gibson beat 30-game winner Denny McLain 4-0 and set a Series record by fanning 17 Tigers. His 35 total strikeouts in the 1968 WS were also a record. He won Game Four 10-1, but lost Game Seven 4-1, on two days' rest, to Mickey Lolich.

    I looked up single season ERA stats and the only other pitcher since 1920 to even break the top 50 is Maddux with 1.56 ERA in 1994 who is at #48.

    He was known as a fierce conpetitor...I read a story a few years back about a sportswriter who asked Gibson if his game 7 loss in 1968 still hurt and Gibson supposedly almost took his head off for having the balls to ask the question.

    He also was a good hitter and a Golden Glove fielder:
    "From 1965 to 1973 he won nine consecutive Gold Gloves for fielding excellence. He often helped his cause with the bat, laying down a successful bunt or hitting up the middle. He had 24 regular-season home runs plus a pair in World Series play. In 1970 he batted .303 and was occasionally employed as a pinch hitter"

    I also learned that he was a standout BBall player, went to college on a BBall scholarship and played a season with the Harlem Globetrotters

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    To add to ODH's excellent bio on Gibson:

    He grew up in Omaha and went to Creighton Univ. where he also played basketball.
    In contrast to many of today's pitchers (fat), he was clearly a superior athlete, standing about 6-3 and 195. He was widely known as a fierce competitor, and he was known to occasionally pitch "a little inside" if the situation warranted it. Roberto Clemente hit a line drive that broke his tibia or fibula around 1972 or so.

    My subjective impression from from listening to many games from that era, was that it seemed that after runners were on base, Gibson could and would often strike out the side.

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    Also, forgot to mention: after Gibson's phenomenal '68 season, with his 1.12 ERA and (by memory) 13 shutouts (all in all it was a pitcher's year), major league baseball decided to lower the pitching mound--taking away some of the advantage pitchers held.

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    I didn't know Gibson grew up on Omaha. I grew up in that area (well right across the river in Iowa) and never knew that.

    The man was one hell of an athlete!!

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    Here is a list of the great pitchers according to Tom Seaver:

    The 10 Best Pitchers by Tom Seaver (1994)
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    The 10 Best Pitchers by Tom Seaver

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    Default Re: I'll start it: Greatest Pitchers of All Time

    No arguing that list.

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    I think he places Carlton and Ryan too high. Of course, he pitched in their era. I'd give Maddux the nod over either of these.

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    What the hell does Tom Seaver know? LOL. Maybe he didn't include Maddux because it was for retired players or something...

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