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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    That's not up to me to figure it out. I am sure they can come up with a reasonable amount.

    I believe since Russia developed this player it can dictate where he can play. This should be in the contract before each player gets serious training in Russia.

    Tell me, what benefit is there for Russia to develop great hockey players when they go to play in America?
    Judging by the number of soft players that never pan out from Russia, I'd say the NHL and it's owners lose more than they gain from Russia. The NHL was around long before Russians could play, and it'll still be successful if they stop coming. I've actually noticed that the level of talent coming out of Russia has declined steadily since the days of the Soviets, which is reflected in the reduction of Russians on NHL rosters since the late 90's. I say keep'em. They're cheap shot artists who can't hit, aren't tough around the goal, lack defensive skills, flop too much for penalties, and in general lack the mental toughness to perform night after night for an 82 game schedule.

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    TheRick, Russia has some damn good players these days. Datsyk, Malkin and Gonchar (I think) are all Russian players. I know Malkin's had a weak series but I'll say all three of those "panned out".n Datsyk is a finalist for the Selke trophy- great defensive skills. Oveckin hits like a ton of bricks, is tough as hell, and I don't think he ever dives. Guys like Kovalchuk and Semin aren't too bad either.

    BTW Malkin just got his first point of the series setting up the overtime goal.

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    TheRick, Russia has some damn good players these days. Datsyk, Malkin and Gonchar (I think) are all Russian players. I know Malkin's had a weak series but I'll say all three of those "panned out".n Datsyk is a finalist for the Selke trophy- great defensive skills. Oveckin hits like a ton of bricks, is tough as hell, and I don't think he ever dives. Guys like Kovalchuk and Semin aren't too bad either.

    BTW Malkin just got his first point of the series setting up the overtime goal.

    I'm just giving big crap. Hell, Ovechkin is quite possibly the best overall player in the league. The most skilled player on my hometown team is Russian. He's one of the those who's not very tough, but his skill level is incredible.

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    I am just trying to bring out the other side of the story. Who else will do it on here?

    Russian citizens are not property of Russia but I think they should have to pay back everything the country has given them if they want to leave. Russian government is just not capitalistic enough to make Russians pay a sum of money before they can leave if they got something free from the country.

    Like I said, I owe my college loans no matter where I go to live.

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    Does the government still pay for all youth hockey programs? Do some of the players hire private coaches, or are they all paid for by the government?

    If they are sending money back to their family in Russia, and that money is being spent in Russia, then isn't Russia's economy benefiting from the millions of dollars the players are making in the NHL?

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    therick, you don't get it. One way or another the government is providing the environment for Russian hockey players to flourish. The government finds sponsors that help build clubs, pay coaches, and so on. If top players then leave, the whole program suffers.

    Russia is pumping tens of millions of dollars into its hockey programs. Whatever miniscule benefit Russia might get from players playing in the NHL is nothing, trust me. Russian economy doesn't need remittances from America. It is making $1 billion per day in oil and gas revenues.

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    I will go further, if I were in charge in Russia I would have all Russian hockey players from age 18 on sign a form that would bar them from playing in any club outside of Russia without the release of the Russian government.

    Why should Russia train great hockey players for America?
    Form or no form, if they get it in their minds that they want to leave the POS country, then thats what they're going to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    Form or no form, if they get it in their minds that they want to leave the POS country, then thats what they're going to do.
    If they sign a form, then NHL can't touch them without resolving the issue. In any case, its just not ethical from NHL's side. If you can for a second understand the Russian side of the story you will see that Russians have nothing else to do but oppress its players. What, you think they should just pour resources and let America enjoy the fruits?
    Last edited by Big; 06-03-2008 at 01:38 AM.

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    Whats stopping them once they turn 18 from saying "screw you" and bolting before they sign the form?

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