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    Default Man Dies of Thirst in Survival Course but there was Water

    Am I missing something, or is this school that let a man die in their charge, trying to swim up a dry creek? Man dies of thirst, but instructors had water. The height of bad judgment. But note how they try to disavow responsibility. Am I missing something?


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    Reminds of the head coach at the University of Georgia football that was canned a few years back for running two a days in the Georgia heat and humidity but refusing to allow the players to take water. One collapsed from dehydration. The university investigated and canned the coach.

    These were experienced leaders that knew the warning signs of dehydration and heat exhaustion. Clearly a negligent act on their part despite the parameters of the program.
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    That's what I say, Negligence with a capital N.

    I've been in the canyons of Southern Utah in June. You don't mess around with the water situation.

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    I forgot the name of it, but read a book a few years ago about Bear Bryant when he coached at Texas A&M in the 50s. Nearly killed a couple of boys. Fortunately, they survived but I think at least one of them was so damaged he never played again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    I forgot the name of it, but read a book a few years ago about Bear Bryant when he coached at Texas Tech in the 50s. Nearly killed a couple of boys. Fortunately, they survived but I think at least one of them was so damaged he never played again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stardust View Post
    Junction Boys. ESPN made it into a movie also
    Bear Bryant is still celebrated for his tough practices, like denying water is good thing to toughen up athletes. I had never heard that it permenantly damaged some players, noly that he produced a winning team at A&M.

    The best counter to this philosophy that I have ever heard was from John Gagliardi (sp?) football coach at St. John's in Minnesota:
    "They let horses drink, don't they?"

    He also believes in very little contact in practice and did not understand why only quarterbacks should be off-limits to hitting during practice. I remeber his quote as "What about the other guys? They have mothers as well."

    He is also the winningest coach in the history of college football.

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    Bear Bryant is still celebrated for his tough practices, like denying water is good thing to toughen up athletes. I had never heard that it permenantly damaged some players, noly that he produced a winning team at A&M.

    Just going by my not-infallible memory, but I think couple of guys were hospitalized, and the one who turned blue never came back to the team. Actually, the story was he lost a lot of players, some who supposedly couldn't hack it, but others who did get sick.

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    This was common practice, even up to the late 60's. I graduated in 1967 from H.S. And it was supposed to make you tougher. Amazing how far we've come. Also amazing more people didn't die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRED View Post
    This was common practice, even up to the late 60's. I graduated in 1967 from H.S. And it was supposed to make you tougher. Amazing how far we've come. Also amazing more people didn't die.
    Yes, I forgot what water tasted like each winter from 1964 (had to cut weight in high school) to 1969 (graduated college).
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