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    Unless I am ever a millionaire I will never get another dog in America. I am not like most of you guys with regard to dogs because I don't take a dog to be my pet but my friend. I cannot let my friend die at the first sign of trouble and I cannot afford paying thousands of dollars for the treatment that is often pointless.

    Many of you have a few dogs and other animals and you can just get new ones when they expire so to speak. I can't do that.

    This is not a religious section but this is probably the difference between what the Bible says about animals serving humans and what an atheist thinks of a dog being your buddy.

    I don't agree with the castration issue either. A dog should be able to make puppies his whole life and the owner should be able to freely sell them!
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    Oh, I'm sorry, I guess we're all heartless, cruel people. I remember another thread where we all showed our sympathy and said that we have all been through similar pain, but apparently, that doesn't matter to you. You're not the only one who lost a friend when you lost a dog. I understand you're in pain, but there is no need to attack us because we don't agree with you.

    As I said before, looking for blame in your dog's death is going to be fruitless. Dogs have short life spans - 10-15 years on average. (Though I'm sure, in Russia, they live to 500.) Choosing a dog to be your friend is really setting yourself up for heartbreak, because no matter how much money or time is thrown at the dog's problems, they will still die. If you choose not to own another dog because that is a tough reality to face, then don't get another dog. There is nothing wrong with that. Both my grandmother and father have made those decisions after losing their beloved dogs. But don't blame it on America, the vets, the Bible or us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestater View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry, I guess we're all heartless, cruel people. I remember another thread where we all showed our sympathy and said that we have all been through similar pain, but apparently, that doesn't matter to you. You're not the only one who lost a friend when you lost a dog. I understand you're in pain, but there is no need to attack us because we don't agree with you.

    As I said before, looking for blame in your dog's death is going to be fruitless. Dogs have short life spans - 10-15 years on average. (Though I'm sure, in Russia, they live to 500.) Choosing a dog to be your friend is really setting yourself up for heartbreak, because no matter how much money or time is thrown at the dog's problems, they will still die. If you choose not to own another dog because that is a tough reality to face, then don't get another dog. There is nothing wrong with that. Both my grandmother and father have made those decisions after losing their beloved dogs. But don't blame it on America, the vets, the Bible or us.
    well done. You always seem to be able to express exactly what I'm thinking, but waayyy more clearly than I ever could

    Big, it's obnoxious of you to assume that just because some of us have multiple pets that we just toss them out to exchange them for new ones like a used pair of gloves. That's just asinine, even for you.
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    I chose this thread to express my disappointments. That is why this is a diifferent thread than the other one where I said nothing of the sort. The fact is my family and I have issues with what happened and I am expressing them here.

    The fact is I can't afford paying thousands for tests and I can't kill my friend because I can't afford $3K for basic tests. That is why I am not getting another dog among other things.

    In the end, I feel like I got screwed over because they did a zillion tests and could not find a tumor that screwed up half of my dog's stomach until they cut him open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    Castration just screws up their hormones and drive to stay in shape and overall reason to live a long time

    Well, the real question is, how do you make a hormone?
    Don't pay her.

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    And yes I could never own more than one dog at a time. That is all I am saying. I didn't say anyone of you is wrong. Just different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I chose this thread to express my disappointments. That is why this is a diifferent thread than the other one where I said nothing of the sort. The fact is my family and I have issues with what happened and I am expressing them here.

    The fact is I can't afford paying thousands for tests and I can't kill my friend because I can't afford $3K for basic tests. That is why I am not getting another dog among other things.

    In the end, I feel like I got screwed over because they did a zillion tests and could not find a tumor that screwed up half of my dog's stomach until they cut him open.
    Big, you really didn't. I understand being upset, but even with the tests, and the surgery, and the best veterinary scientists working on Mugli, he was still going to die at some point. Not having the strength to put the dog down is another story. I had to ask my sister to do it, so I don't know how it's handled.

    I also understand "expressing disappointment," but that's not what you did. You attacked us. As Stardust said, that's asinine, and hurtful.

    By the way, in case you change your mind, here is the Web site for the Staten Island Council for Animal Welfare, your neighborhood's animal shelter:
    http://members.petfinder.org/~NY34/sicawindex.htm

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    Big, I'm sorry your dog died, I really am. I've had my share of pets in my 49 years, they all died (except my dog Teddy, though she's getting up in years). That being said, I find it interesting that on the thread where you complained about all the Jesus/Christmas talk you pretty much told a young mother who lost her daughter to get over it and live in the now. Why not take your own advice and get on with living? There's always the now after all. The problem is, it's not that easy is it Big? It's not easy to get over the loss of someone you care for because their memory is in the now with you.

    I think of my father every day, I remember the day my wife called me at work and told me he died, I'll never forget it. I pick up the phone, it's the bride, I can tell by the tone of her voice it's bad news, she says, "I'm sorry but your dad died." I was expecting this, my father had been failing for a long time, but it was still hard, I hang up (what can you say, Thanks?) walked back to the foremans office and told him I wouldn't be in the next day, my dad died, then back to the job for the rest of the shift. Believe me, it feels much worse when a loved one dies than when a pet dies. It's time to shut up about the dog and how everyone and everything let you down, it's just a dog after all. Get over it and prepare yourself for worse than that Big, life only gets harder.

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    Well, no true Christian who agrees with the bible will ever think of a dog as his buddy. That is a fact. I have read about it. A dog is a man's servant creature that he can dispose of if it gives him any trouble according to the bible. That is all I am saying. Perhaps bluestater, you are not as much of a Christian as you think you are when it comes to dogs.

    But I am sure the laws in America with regard to dogs reflect the Bible's view.

    I know dogs die. I had a dog die in 1994 as I said earlier. I was not disappointed with anything then. He was very sick and we took him to put him to sleep. This time it was different with regard to veterinary treatment. That is all I am saying.

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