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    Big, you have it all wrong you don't need club or breeder affiliation to see a dog. Only if you do it for a living. They want to make sure living conditions, shots and ECT... Are all up to standards. Heck any newspaper in Iowa has a section with dogs for sale. Not all of them are breeders or belong to a club. You can get a great dog from all sorts of places not just puppy mills.
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    Castration just screws up their hormones and drive to stay in shape and overall reason to live a long time

    Well, the real question is, how do you make a hormone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltz View Post
    Big, you have it all wrong you don't need club or breeder affiliation to see a dog. Only if you do it for a living. They want to make sure living conditions, shots and ECT... Are all up to standards. Heck any newspaper in Iowa has a section with dogs for sale. Not all of them are breeders or belong to a club. You can get a great dog from all sorts of places not just puppy mills.
    Well if you are selling 10 puppies, how do you prove you don't do it for a living? Sure, there might be a section with dogs for sale but is it a section of ADULT dogs for sale or something like a resale of owners that changed their minds or a section of puppies for sale from a mother-dog?

    I can bet a sale of 10 boxer puppies would be illegal without a club affiliation.

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    They want to make sure living conditions, shots and ECT... Are all up to standards.

    That is all crap! Any dog owner that can sell his puppies for good money would ensure the puppies are healthy so they can sell them and present all the proper papers to the buyers.

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    Castration just screws up their hormones and drive to stay in shape and overall reason to live a long time

    Well, the real question is, how do you make a hormone?
    Exactly! Sperm production in dogs also affects their brains and their brains regulate their bodies completely differently based on whether they have their testicles or not.

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    Big, purebred dogs quite often have a lengthy set of health problems because of a lack of a genetic pool. Not all breeds, but quite a few. I have not, and will not ever, get a dog from a breeder. There are way too many dogs at shelters and rescues who need homes. If you're looking for a specific type of dog, you can often find it at a rescue center.

    Fixing dogs usually adds to their health, not detracts from it. You're speaking from your experience with two dogs, and quite honestly, your dog had a good lifespan for a dog of its size. I understand that you're upset, but unfortunately, dogs die, and it sucks. It's not the system's fault, it's not your fault, it's no one's fault.

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    I am with Bluestater on this issue. There are so many loving animals waiting for adoption at shelters. We have 6 rescued pets as part of our family (2 dogs and 4 cats) and I could not ask for any better animals. Each is unique and loving in its own special way.
    Big, I am sorry for your loss. Hang tough and when the time is right open that heart of yours to another pet that is out there waiting for your love.

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    every pet I've ever had has come from a rescue shelter of some sort. My aunt has adopted 3 dachsunds from the Humane Society in the last 5-8 years and they have been great to deal with.
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    I used to raise bulldogs - but over the last 35 years or so all of my dogs have been "rescued". The current pair - grayhounds - were racing dogs that would have been destroyed. They are amazing dogs! Giant couch potatoes who get by nicely with a daily walk.

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