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    They aren't using in the stereotypical sport (bodybuilding, powerlifting, weightlifting, football, baseball) method that I assume you're associating them with (getting stronger), they use anabolics and blood doping agents (like EPO) as recovery boosters.
    OK, that helps big time. The only thing that I could guess was maybe for muscle endurance, but this just opens up another level of how I'm ignorant of what's going on in sports: I assumed that all "dope" was traditional steroids that were all over the place even when I played football in college.
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    I know this is a very naive thought, but all of my coaching and competition experience has been on the high school level and what probably was equivalent to D2 or D3 in college. When athletes use performance enhancing drugs, don't they realize that they didn't really win? For me, there would be no satisfaction in knowing that I didn't really earn that medal or trophy, and I would feel that I didn't deserve the accolades. There would be no pride in the accomplishment. If all my opponents were doing it and I was at a disadvantage, then I wouldn't feel that they had really beaten me. I realize that there is big money involved even at the college level, but at the levels with which I am familiar, it just seems illogical.
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    Next level athletes are not logical !! when surveyed and asked this question , ''if taking steroids could help you set a PR in your event and assure you a championship , even if it took a decade off your life , would you take PEDs ?'' 90% said yes , w/o hesitation . a made for TV movie came out starring josh Brolin when he was about 18 (say 1981 ?) , it had an anti steroid theme as brolin's character started juicing and setting records yet croaked at the end yet steroid use became more prevalent AFTER this film .
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    I know this is a very naive thought, but all of my coaching and competition experience has been on the high school level and what probably was equivalent to D2 or D3 in college. When athletes use performance enhancing drugs, don't they realize that they didn't really win? For me, there would be no satisfaction in knowing that I didn't really earn that medal or trophy, and I would feel that I didn't deserve the accolades. There would be no pride in the accomplishment. If all my opponents were doing it and I was at a disadvantage, then I wouldn't feel that they had really beaten me. I realize that there is big money involved even at the college level, but at the levels with which I am familiar, it just seems illogical.
    So, I take it that you DON'T feel proud that you used cheat sheets to pass your board exams?
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    So, I take it that you DON'T feel proud that you used cheat sheets to pass your board exams?
    I touched up the x-rays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    I know this is a very naive thought, but all of my coaching and competition experience has been on the high school level and what probably was equivalent to D2 or D3 in college. When athletes use performance enhancing drugs, don't they realize that they didn't really win? For me, there would be no satisfaction in knowing that I didn't really earn that medal or trophy, and I would feel that I didn't deserve the accolades. There would be no pride in the accomplishment. If all my opponents were doing it and I was at a disadvantage, then I wouldn't feel that they had really beaten me. I realize that there is big money involved even at the college level, but at the levels with which I am familiar, it just seems illogical.
    The counter to that is that they believe all of their competitors are doping so that they need to juice in order to level the playing field. In defense of Armstrong this is definitely true as almost everyone runner-up to him in his seven wins has been busted for doping. This is one of the reasons that I find it logical that he was most likely cheating. In the sports doping gives a big advantage, most of the top competitors have been busted for doping and he was clearly the number one rider in a time were doping was rampant.

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    I understand and you are right, but it doesn't say much for the sport, or any sport, if doping can be that rampant and not be enforced. So basically, the sport is drug-cycling, and Lance is the best at it.
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    An accurate summation.
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    Are these guys allowed to use anti-inflammatory drugs during the race? What about an asthma inhaler? I know these things are usually legal, but wouldn't they also enhance the performance of someone with tendonitis or who has asthma? I'm just curious how stringent they are. I've heard hockey players can't use sudafed for some athletic enhancement that escapes me now.

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