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    We've had discussion here before about musicians "selling out".

    ie. Springsteen teaming up with Wal-mart.

    This is an excellent article on the subject.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-m..._b_177836.html

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    It's funny you should mention "selling out" then post an article by John "Chevrolet" Mellencamp himself.

    I don't like musicians selling out (can we also mention athletes?) , but then I'm not in their shoes. A lot of people make compromises when it comes to work and careers. But kudos to John Densmore of the Doors who last I knew was still refusing to let his bandmates sell their songs as commercials.

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    Clone,
    Did you read the article?

    Along the lines of you Doors example, Kid Rock is one of the very few musicians still not on iTunes. (except for some very early songs which he doesn't have rights

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    I tried to skim the article a couple of times, couldn't indentify the essential argument--especially from the first paragraph--so gave up. If you want to point out something you think we should specifically pay attention to, I will look at it again.

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    The article explains how the music industry changed from having artists as it's foundation to what we have today, an industry based the bottom line.

    On a completely different note, let me hijack my own thread.....

    This is a great paragraph. It's sort of a sub-plot to the main idea.

    Nora Guthrie, Woody's daughter, once told me a story about a reception she was at where Bob Dylan was in attendance. The business people there were quietly commenting on how unsociable Dylan seemed to them, not what they imagined an encounter with Dylan would be like. When that observation about Dylan's behavior and disposition were mentioned to Nora, the response was very profound. She said that Bob Dylan was not put on this earth to participate in cocktail chatter with strangers. Bob Dylan's purpose in life is to write great songs like "Blowin' in the Wind" and "The Times They Are A' Changin'." This sort of sums it all up for me.

    I kind of take this point of view when people criticize pro athletes for not being great role models. They get paid to perform an athletic feat that 99.999% of the rest of the world can't do. Leave it at that. If they are nice guys on top of that, then great. But if not, oh well.

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    I kind of take this point of view when people criticize pro athletes for not being great role models. They get paid to perform an athletic feat that 99.999% of the rest of the world can't do. Leave it at that. If they are nice guys on top of that, then great. But if not, oh well.[/QUOTE]


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    The article explains how the music industry changed from having artists as it's foundation to what we have today, an industry based the bottom line.
    I would argue that the industry has by and large always been based on the bottom line, and that it's never been about the artists, although I'm sure we could think of some exceptions. We've undergone great technological advances that have changed the way we make music, and interact with music, and helped the industry find new ways to develop and better their bottom line.

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    Man, old Johnny took a long time to say very little in that article.

    I get his point though. It's the main reason why I almost exclusively listen to the only independent radio station here in Columbus. I get to hear local and independent artists on a regular basis. Something that just doesn't happen on the big corporate radio stations.


    On the topic of iTunes. I think it's been a great avenue for obscure artists to get their songs to the people. I've found tons of artists I'd never have found, were it not for iTunes. With the way that huge corporations dominate the radio market and tell us what to listen too, I'm thankful for a place like iTunes where I can search out artists who will rarely, if ever, get played on the radio.

    As for selling out.......why do people get so upset about a musician making money from their songs? It's got to be the only profession where people actually hold it against you, if you maximize your earning potential.

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    I suppose it's because the artists in question (e.g. Bob Dylan) have presented themselves (or are perceived) as being apart from a money-making endeavor. They've explicitly or implicitly asserted that their art is for art's sake, not for money.

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