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    Default Does this make any sense to anyone?

    I spend every working day with people this age who are in jail (actually, prison) and who deserve to be there. I can't believe that Texas has enough jail space to waste it on a person like this. What are we trying to teach?

    Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school | khou.com Houston

    HOUSTON—A judge threw a 17-year-old 11th grade honor student from Willis High School in jail after she missed school again.

    Judge Lanny Moriarty said last month Diane Tran was in his Justice of the Peace court for truancy and he warned her then to stop missing school. But she recently missed classes again so Wednesday he issued a summons and had her arrested in open court when she appeared.

    Tran said she works a full-time job, a part-time job and takes advanced placement and dual credit college level courses. She said she is often too exhausted to wake up in time for school. Sometimes she misses the entire day, she said. Sometimes she arrives after attendance has been taken.

    The judge ordered Tran to spend 24 hours in jail and pay a $100 fine. Judge Moriarty admitted that he wants to make an example of Tran.

    “If you let one (truant student) run loose, what are you gonna’ do with the rest of ‘em? Let them go too?” Judge Moriarty asked.

    Tran said she is working so hard because she is helping to support an older brother who attends Texas A&M University and a baby sister who lives with relatives in Houston. Tran said her parents divorced “out of the blue” and both moved away, leaving her in Willis. Her mother lives in Georgia, she said.

    “I always thought our family was happy,” the teen said tearfully.

    Tran lives with the family of one of her employers. They own a wedding venue. She works at the Vineyard of Waverly Manor on weekends and at a dry cleaners full time.

    “She goes from job to job, from school she stays up ‘til 7 o’clock in the morning,” said her friend, co-worker and classmate Devin Hill.

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    This type of crap is happening all over the place! It's as if police and judges have no common sense anymore. A person like that should be commended for her responsibility....not jailed for lack of it. I swear to you and everyone reading that our country is going to poop. Because it's now being ran by the kids who were coddled so much growing up that they never gained any sort of common sense. Trust me, this type of story will become the norm and people who disagree will be the minority in the very near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    This type of crap is happening all over the place! It's as if police and judges have no common sense anymore. A person like that should be commended for her responsibility....not jailed for lack of it. I swear to you and everyone reading that our country is going to poop. Because it's now being ran by the kids who were coddled so much growing up that they never gained any sort of common sense. Trust me, this type of story will become the norm and people who disagree will be the minority in the very near future.
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    Unfortuately, the powers that be often see things as black or white, and don't have the desire or intelligence to consider the extenuating circumstances of every situation. Perhaps this young lady and others like her could obtain special permission to be excused from some absences or tardinesses.

    I don't think that this is a result of the country being run by people who grew up with no common sense. I think it is a reaction to the pervasive disrespect for civility and decorum that many young people have as a result of what they see around them: reality shows on tv, the deificaiton of gangsta rappers, and the general rewarding of bad behavior.
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    Would we feel the same outrage for a student who was also regularly truant, but didn't hold all of the responsibilities and good academic standing that this student does?
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    Ban - No, I wouldn't.
    I work daily with young people who figured out early that they didn't need an education. That was too much hard work and they were going to get by without putting in the effort. They don't need a regular job, they can make it big through preying on the suckers who have those jobs. They have no understanding of responsibility or hard work. They feel entitled to anything they want just because they exist. Saturday, one of them was telling me that he made more in one night than I make in a year - and could see no value in how I live. He is in our facility (awaiting his 18th birthday when we will transfer him to adult prison) for killing a competitor in his drug business. Are there extenuating circumstances in his story? Sure - lousy home life, poverty, gang influences, all of that. So what? Most of us have had hardships and have had to work their way past those to find our way.
    This story is about one of those working her way. This young lady is meeting her responsibilities. While I believe that it is important for students to attend class, she is managing to maintain her grades, in honors and AP classes, even though she cannot attend every day. What more can the school ask her to do? She is working two jobs to help support her family who were abandoned by the parents. If the judge wants to jail somebody, he should find mom and dad and put them in jail. They are derelict of their responsibilities, not this 17 year old.
    My real outrage is with the school. Why wasn't somebody helping this young lady work with the system to protect her from the legal fallout? Nobody cared enough? Or were they too busy trying to deal with the scum that floats around a school they just didn't have time for a student that wasn't creating enough noise to draw attention? We have a real chance at losing a valuable member of society by disregarding her efforts to be successful. She has earned the support and assistance of the community. It hasn't been given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    Would we feel the same outrage for a student who was also regularly truant, but didn't hold all of the responsibilities and good academic standing that this student does?
    I wouldn't. Are you suggesting I should?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
    I don't think that this is a result of the country being run by people who grew up with no common sense. I think it is a reaction to the pervasive disrespect for civility and decorum that many young people have as a result of what they see around them: reality shows on tv, the deificaiton of gangsta rappers, and the general rewarding of bad behavior.
    You said it better than me. That's what I meant by no common sense. Doesn't matter what you see around you, you have to be able to judge what's right and wrong. People today don't seem to be able to do that. Everything is just black and white, like you said.

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    I'm simply saying that if the issue is truancy, which it is, as far as the court is concerned, how is truancy any different if the truant student is an honors student or one who struggles through school. Legally, which is all this is about, she is equal in the eyes of the court with other truant students. Correct?

    Now, as for the school, let's assume for a minute that they turn a blind eye to truancy and it begins to run a bit rampant in this school. Wouldn't we also be the first ones pointing fingers at this school for "not doing their jobs" and "keeping the school manageable?" It seems to me that the school did its job in reporting the case of repeated truancy.

    The court, nor the school, should never be in the bidness of picking and choosing, and by not treating all truant students the same is a job well done by all parties involved, as unfortunate as this circumstance may be.

    I also suspect that there's a lot more to this story thatn is being reported. Working in edurcation for over 16 years has taught me that there's usually more going on the schools than (a) the public knows nd (b) what gets accurately reported.
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