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    Wow. Just read this thread.

    Judges should judge and excercise good JUDGEMENT while doing so.

    If there are any educators on here, I have a question for you.

    If this girl had come to you for counselling/advise, how would you have advised her?


    Apply to the government (state or federal) for financial asistance, thus allowing the need for two jobs to disappear, and thus allowing pristine classroom attendance. Would that be the advice of educators on here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    What a cop out. When the judge agrees with you, you were arrogant in your position and assumed correctness on the matter. Now that the circumstances have changed you wilt and hide behind sarcasm in an attempt to skirt the issue.

    I have been in your exact position and it's hard but sometimes you have to admit your wrong or at the least make an honest edgier to stand your ground.
    You aren't serious, right? Because I don't agree with a judge's ruling suddenly makes you think that I have changed my tune? Why would I do that? I don't agree with his ruling, but am I supposed to?

    You may recall that I said much earlier in this thread that I'm not an attorney, nor do I play one on the internet. Because of that, yeah, it's pretty likely that a judge will rule differently than I may feel from time to time. Who cares, other than you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LkwdSteve View Post
    Wow. Just read this thread.

    Judges should judge and excercise good JUDGEMENT while doing so.

    If there are any educators on here, I have a question for you.

    If this girl had come to you for counselling/advise, how would you have advised her?


    Apply to the government (state or federal) for financial asistance, thus allowing the need for two jobs to disappear, and thus allowing pristine classroom attendance. Would that be the advice of educators on here?
    I personally wouldn't offer any advice on her personal life and what she needs to do. In fact, we are instructed to NOT do so, and to refer such cases to our counseling/student services department. At our school, our philosophy is for the teachers to NOT advise such things, as that opens us up for grounds for grade appeals; "he told me to do that!," is what could come back at you during a grade appeal.

    On a related level, I have the personal policy where I make ZERO exceptions for late work, missed exams, etc. because of the very same reason why I don't agree with the judge's ruling (assuming that he won't be fair and consistent down the road). If I make an exception for one student, and not for another, that is unfair to me. So, I NEVER get into a game of picking and choosing between absences and telling one student that he/she is excused while another is not. 16 1/2 years of it has taught me that ALL absences are best treated the same, regardless of circumstance.
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    Different philosophies, I guess. When I was teaching I felt it was my responsibility to exercise my judgement on what was appropriate or not appropriate. When I did, I explained my reasoning. I would listen to counter-argument, but I made the decision based on what I felt was right. For example, I was teaching 6, 7, and 8 Special Day Class. One of my students was consistantly late returning to class after lunch. After a couple of verbal warnings (read: scolding) I took him aside and asked why he was late so often. It turned out he had a younger brother who was in the Severely Disabled class. Every day at lunch he would go and have lunch with his brother, then escort his brother to recess. When recess was over, he would escort the brother back to his class, then come to mine. Sometimes it took him a bit longer to get his brother to class, making him late. I decided that the love and care for his brother was more important than attending the first couple of minutes of my class.
    I can understand the position that rules are rules, the policy of zero-tolerance, and not making exceptions. I just don't think it is right.

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    I agree Richardson, even when you have kids of your own equal and fair are not the norm, you make decisions on punishment pr privileges based on the merits of the individual and the circumstance, just because I let my 16 year old attend prom doesn't mean I will let my 8 year old, and on the other side if the 8 year old makes a mistake I would not make the punishment the same if the 16 year old did so. We dont live in a black and white world all the time, we have to be able to operate in the grey area with discretion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    Ban in this thread you have turned into Big
    If I had the slightest bit of memory about what Big used to say and how it relates to what I've been saying I could respond, but I don't.

    I'll just aassume that it means that "everyone disagrees with me." If so, I'm good with that and will sleep DAMNED WELL at night knowing that people on a wrestling forum aren't siding with me.

    LOL!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    . . . will sleep DAMNED WELL at night knowing that people on a wrestling forum aren't siding with me.

    LOL!!
    Hey, wait a minute. Your LOL notwithstanding, there are some pretty smart people on this forum, and I include you (and, of course, me) in that group. Don't judge us all by what Quinn says.

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    "to refer such cases to our counseling/student services department."

    Exactly who I had in mind. How should they advise her, in your opinion as an educator?
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    Webster Definition of COMPASSION:
    sympathetic consciousness of others' distress together with a desire to alleviate it.

    Wikipedia on compassion:
    Compassion is the virtue of empathy for the suffering of others. It is regarded as a fundamental part of human love, and a cornerstone of greater social interconnection and humanism —foundational to the highest principles in philosophy, society, and personhood.
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