Re: Peyton lands on his feet

**ban basketball** · 03-21-2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Snackem

Being an educator I would argue that there is more to being a teacher than making it through college.

You mean the old phrase of, "those who know it do it, and those who don't teach" isn't true?

Damn! And here I thought that it was.

**Snackem** · 03-21-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

You mean the old phrase of, "those who know it do it, and those who don't teach" isn't true?

Damn! And here I thought that it was.

Actually some of the WORST teachers I know are some of the smartest people I know. They just don't understand why people don't just "get it". Or they've never had to "learn" anything because once it's explained to them the concepts just make sense.

**ban basketball** · 03-21-2012, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Snackem

Actually some of the WORST teachers I know are some of the smartest people I know. They just don't understand why people don't just "get it". Or they've never had to "learn" anything because once it's explained to them the concepts just make sense.

You're preaching to the choir with me!

I've been "in the business" for just over 16 years.

**UGLY** · 03-21-2012, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

Teachers in private institutions certainly generate profits for those institutions.

However, even in public institutions, they still generate "profits." Public institutions are not businesses, but if they don't bring in profit, funding cuts get exacerbated very quickly. When they do bring in profits, more programs and services are offered.

The profit they bring in is through taxation and some fundraising, but no teacher is brinnging in more tax dollars because they are an excellent teacher, and here in CO for the most part teachers at private schools make less in a benefits package than their public school counter part.

**ban basketball** · 03-21-2012, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by UGLY

The profit they bring in is through taxation and some fundraising, but no teacher is brinnging in more tax dollars because they are an excellent teacher, and here in CO for the most part teachers at private schools make less in a benefits package than their public school counter part.

Tuition and grants brings in FAR more than any taxes could ever dream of bringing in. Good teachers bring in students, which brings in tuition and grant money.

As for public versus private pay and benefits, a definite NO in regard to pay. Private institution professors make far more than public institution professors do. Benefits are paid within each institution, so some of the private colleges will have far more handsome benefit packages than the public institutions will.

http://www.mhec.org/pdfs/facsalaries2010.pdf
Faculty Salaries Vary by Institution Type, Discipline - Faculty - The Chronicle of Higher Education

**quinn14** · 03-21-2012, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

As for public versus private pay and benefits, a definite NO in regard to pay. Private institution professors make far more than public institution professors do. Benefits are paid within each institution, so some of the private colleges will have far more handsome benefit packages than the public institutions will.

http://www.mhec.org/pdfs/facsalaries2010.pdf
Faculty Salaries Vary by Institution Type, Discipline - Faculty - The Chronicle of Higher Education

I thought you all were talking about schools, not colleges.

**ban basketball** · 03-21-2012, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by quinn14

I thought you all were talking about schools, not colleges.

Well, if we're talking about teachers bringing in "profit," then public schools certainly couldn't be a part of that equation. It has to be a discussion of colleges and universities.

**quinn14** · 03-21-2012, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

Well, if we're talking about teachers bringing in "profit," then public schools certainly couldn't be a part of that equation.

Not sure and I don't want to speak for Ugly, but I thought that was his whole point. Public school teachers are paid by tax dollars just like police and firemen and none bring in profit. Anyway, that's just the way I read his comments. I will stay out and let him speak for his self.

**UGLY** · 03-21-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by quinn14

Not sure and I don't want to speak for Ugly, but I thought that was his whole point. Public school teachers are paid by tax dollars just like police and firemen and none bring in profit. Anyway, that's just the way I read his comments. I will stay out and let him speak for his self.

This is what I was reffering to.

Sorry ban I thought we were on the same page.

Speaking of colleges I do dislike the fact that a football coach makes more than a proffessor, when we know that football really doesnt make the school money and actually cost money. Real Sports had a great special on college football and BCS.

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