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    Pryor is in the draft but will serve a five game suspension for his transgressions in college. I like the idea that the NFL will punish athletes who get into trouble and then jump ship for the NFL without facing any punishment. This might be one more deterrent to the kids breaking the rules and hurting the school and their teammates.

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    I don't see the sense in suspending him when he's obviously not going to be a starter (if he's even picked).

    Just more grandstanding by Roger Goodell, at least in my eyes.
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    If he doesn't play I don't think he gets paid, I could be wrong though.

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    The NCAA rules are stupid to begin with. He sold his own property to get a tatto. I don't care who gave it to him, it was his. It in no way affected the play on the field. That is what he was suspended for.

    Now, I am hereing that his mother got paid and car and phone payments were made. That is a reason to be suspended. But that isn't what they originally suspended him for, so I didn't agree with the original suspension. Although, him not playing will probably help OSU.

    As far as him being suspended in the NFL for something he did in the NCAA goes, I think it's dumb. That's like getting repremanded from Lowe's for breaking a company rule and deciding to go to Home Depot. Then Home Depot upholds Lowe's decision. Stupid, IMO.

    The NCAA makes billions of dollars off of these kids and gives them nothing in return. Yes, some get a free education. But that is a drop in the bucket compared to what these kids make for the NCAA. Once these youngsters realize that they are being used, they may start to fight for what is rightfully their's. How much money do you think OSU and the NCAA made off of Ohio State #2 jersey's sold since Pryor has been there? How much money did he make for the Big 10 by leading them to bowl games? And people are trying to say that he can't sell a ring for tattoos?

    These kids should be able to sell their autograph's, since it is theirs and not the NCAAs. They should be able to make public appearances for money and they should get to either say yes or no if their likeness is used in a video game. Just because they are students doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to make money off of their own bodies and likenesses.

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    The stupidity of the rules makes no difference, the athletes are told exactly what they can and cannot do. If they break the rules they should be punished. Should the schools look at changing the rules perhaps, but this is all part of amature athletics. If you are an amature you arent supposed to get paid, they recieve an education, housing and food. I dont know if the players are really making any money for the universities, according to the NCAA website only seven percent of Athletic departments are actually making money, the rest lose money. You cant pay athletes with money you dont have. Now if it was only football than they might make money but I believe even the vast majority of football programs lose money. Beyond this, the NCAA gives athletes a platform too display their talents for the NFL giving them the ability to gain millions on the next level while still recieving a free education.

    Maybe it is time for the NFL to create a minor league system drafting high school players into a league much like baseball. Allowing those kids who dont value the education to go straight into a pro orginization. Or perhaps the NFL should suppliment the college athletes through the NCAA. If the college athletes break the rules then they would be subject to school and NFL punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    Maybe it is time for the NFL to create a minor league system drafting high school players into a league much like baseball. Allowing those kids who dont value the education to go straight into a pro orginization. Or perhaps the NFL should suppliment the college athletes through the NCAA. If the college athletes break the rules then they would be subject to school and NFL punishment.
    I agree with the minor league system idea. But I am going to have to check out the claim that only 7% are making money. That sounds like some funny math to me.

    And I do have a serious question. What if a player like Pryor decides to play college football but does not accept a scholorship. Maybe his parents are loaded. Can he then sell his rings for tattoos or get to lease cars for free? I always thought those rules were for scholorship players, but I don't know. Anyone know for sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I agree with the minor league system idea. But I am going to have to check out the claim that only 7% are making money. That sounds like some funny math to me.

    And I do have a serious question. What if a player like Pryor decides to play college football but does not accept a scholorship. Maybe his parents are loaded. Can he then sell his rings for tattoos or get to lease cars for free? I always thought those rules were for scholorship players, but I don't know. Anyone know for sure?
    Pryror's punishment was esentailly having to leave college and lose all the benefits of his scholarship. I agree with Quinn that punishning someone in the NFL for collegiate transgression that broke NCAA rules, but were not illegal is silly. To expand on Quinn's analogy, it is like you got detentions in High School for tardiness and graduated before serving all of your detentions, then when you get to college you get put on academic probation becasue of your HS record.

    I definitely believe the 7% stat, although I wonder if it is for Division I schools or all divisions. Our perspective is warped because we are used to focusing on the big time programs that dominate TV and news coverage, but there are only a handful of conferences that can compete at that level. I have heard that even most of the DI football programs even lose money. Expenses for the large coaching staffs, the number of scholarships, equipment, facilities, and travel costs have to be huge. Not that many schools can fill up a stadium every Saturday. The few schools that do make money make a huge amount and I think a lot of college ADs and president throw money at the dream of having a profitable football team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
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    And I do have a serious question. What if a player like Pryor decides to play college football but does not accept a scholorship. Maybe his parents are loaded. Can he then sell his rings for tattoos or get to lease cars for free? I always thought those rules were for scholorship players, but I don't know. Anyone know for sure?
    I am positive that NCAA rules apply to everyone whether they are on scholarship or not.

    As far as your contention that athletes should be able to make oney off their own name when they are on scholrarship, I disagree with you.
    Their image and signature etc. are only valuable becasue of their associaton with the NCAA. They make an agreement with the school and NCAA to abide by their rules when they accept a scholarship. This is the same way it works in the "real" world. Most companies have a rule that you cannot go out on your spare time while still employed and start making money on the outside becasue of your asociation with your company. Hard to come up with a concrete example of this

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    I think Goodell was just trying to establish a precedent. I don't think he wants the NFL to be viewed as some sort of 'sanctuary' from college football punishment.

    You are right, he probably won't play at all. After watching him play he is probably one of the least talented running QB's I've ever seen so much hype about. His accuracy is sub par, slow release, sucks under pressure, and can't really throw down field. He's going to be a huge bust if someones dumb enough to take him in the 1st rd. He needs to change positions imo to be relevant in the NFL.
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