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    Are we set for another episode such as France endured ? Do NOT count on any officials to CARE whether you live or die.

    France heat wave death toll set at 14,802
    PARIS (AP) ? The death toll in France from August's blistering heat wave has reached nearly 15,000, according to a government-commissioned report released Thursday, surpassing a prior tally by more than 3,000.

    Scientists at INSERM, the National Institute of Health and Medical Research, deduced the toll by determining that France had experienced 14,802 more deaths than expected for the month of August.
    The toll exceeds the prior government count of 11,435, a figure that was based only on deaths in the first two weeks of the month.
    The new estimate includes deaths from the second half of August, after the record-breaking temperatures of the first half of the month had abated.
    The bulk of the victims ? many of them elderly ? died during the height of the heat wave, which brought suffocating temperatures of up to 104 degrees in a country where air conditioning is rare. Others apparently were greatly weakened during the peak temperatures but did not die until days later.
    The new estimate comes a day after the French Parliament released a harshly worded report blaming the deaths on a complex health system, widespread failure among agencies and health services to coordinate efforts, and chronically insufficient care for the elderly.
    Two INSERM researchers who delivered the report were to continue their analysis of deaths to determine what the actual cause was for the spike in mortality, the Health Ministry said.
    The researchers, Denis Hemon and Eric Jougla, were also to recommend ways of improving France's warnings system to better manage such heat-related crises in the future.
    The heat wave swept across much of Europe, but the death toll was far higher in France than in any other country.
    Health Minister Jean-Francois Mattei has ordered a separate special study this month to look into a possible link with vacation schedules after doctors strongly denied allegations their absence put the elderly in danger. The heat wave hit during the August vacation period, when doctors, hospital staff and many others take leave. The results of that study are expected in November.
    The role of vacations is a touchy subject. The National General Practitioners Union says that only about 20% of general practitioners were away during the heat wave.
    Other European countries hit by the heat have been slower than France to come out with death tolls, but it's clear they also suffered thousands of deaths.
    Environmental experts warn that because of climate change, such heat waves are expected to increase in number in coming years, meaning Europe ? a continent that historically has enjoyed a temperate climate ? will have to make adjustments.

    Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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    Payton, here is something that may help you beat the heat and keep you alive. I've been saying it for years. I only drink to stay healthy.

    Beer Hydrates Better Than Water (Really!)

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    Being from AZ I dont understand how people die during a heat wave. Here is how to stay alive, DRINK WATER and stay inside if at all possible when it is hottest. Arizonans and westerners have dealt with this for years, baffles me that the midwest and east coast cant handle it.

    If you live in Arizona and a cold spell moves in, we know to wear warm clothes and stay inside if it is real cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGLY View Post
    Being from AZ I dont understand how people die during a heat wave. Here is how to stay alive, DRINK WATER and stay inside if at all possible when it is hottest. Arizonans and westerners have dealt with this for years, baffles me that the midwest and east coast cant handle it.

    If you live in Arizona and a cold spell moves in, we know to wear warm clothes and stay inside if it is real cold.
    You have to be bright enough to pour p1ss from a boot when the instructions are printed on the sole. I used to live in the Palm Springs area. On a day when temperatures reached 115+, I picked up two hitch-hikers on a rarely travelled back road. Their motorcycle had broken down. They had a good 10 miles left to walk before they reached any help. They were wearing shorts, tee-shirts, and flip-flops. They had no water. I took them home and made them both take cool showers, then my wife slathered both with aloe to try and reduce the burns. Neither was willing to go for medical aid. I drove them into town so they could catch a bus. What are the chances we would have added to the heat fatality statistics if I
    1) hadn't driven by
    2) hadn't been willing to pick up a couple of kids hitch-hiking

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    I haven't been to Arizona, but from what I've heard it is a dry heat. Here in the midwest it is a humid heat. People with asthma can't handle it. They are often told to move to a drier heat area. Not saying everyone who dies of heat is because of asthma, but a lot are.

    Here in the Cincinnati area, it takes me less that 3 minutes to break a sweat. My dog can barely make it around the block, his fur coat doesn't help. I just got off the phone with my HVAC guy because my airconditioner can't keep up. It is 83 degrees in my house. But I get what you're saying, it's just that some people do have legitimate health issues which cause a heat related death.

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    Dry or humid-when it is 110 degrees it is HOT. I've lived in AZ. and all over the midwest but this heatwave is different-last night at midnight it was still 91 degrees in Indiana-and UGLY -the source was France and the deaths could have been averted had anyone cared about (mostly) elderly and poor people. Whatever the ''HEAT INDEX'' is the temperature has not dropped below 80 in 6 days.
    Also, living in pure humidity drains people and they drop before they know what hits them .
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    I know a little about humidity having lived in Georgia and South East Kansas and I do understand that the elderly can not handle the heat at all. But hey it is never below 80 in the summer in AZ. You can beat the heat with the proper hydration and shelter. I dont even understand why it is news that it is hot. I would much rather be hot than cold, but that is probably because I am used to the heat. Now I think 30 below in wisconsin is far more dangerous than the heat. People think heat and they strip down that is a bad move, if you are outside working where a light long sleeved shirt it will save you and a hat.

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    [QUOTE=UGLY;414994] People think heat and they strip down that is a bad move, [QUOTE]

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    i remember teaching in Fontana CA and turning the heat on at night and then the air conditioning the next afternoon. But what I was trying to point out is France could have saved all those people but AUGUST is the traditional holiday month for politicians and Dr.s-if someone in charge would have allowed for emergency power to these people they would have survived-
    France was hit by an unexpected heat wave and these people could not afford even fans or extra cool water-Few buildings are air conditioned as France rarely has such harsh weather .
    The french govt. was roundly condemned for this event.
    You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do.

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