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    Now that the season is in the books we can do a little post trade comparison. This is obviously just based on this year and not a career.

    Yards
    Rodgers- 3730
    Fave- 3239

    Touchdowns
    Ridgers- 25
    Favre- 21

    Completion %
    Rodgers 63.4
    Favre 67

    Interceptions
    Rodgers- 13
    Favre- 19

    qb rating
    Rodgers- 91.4
    Favre-84

    Record-
    Packers- 6-10
    Jets- 9-7


    Favre definitely reenergized the Jets and had them in contention. In the end he could not keep up his pace and made some crucial mistakes.

    Packers seem to be in a bit of rebuilding mode. Rodgers certainly showed the talent and potential.

    Overall the packers definitley made the right move avoided alientating their future franchise qb. Favre has maybe one year left while Rodgers has ten years left so the Packers are set at the qb position and can build around him. I have to say it was an excellent move by the Packers. Also a good move by the jets getting a veteran qb who is one of the best but they just were not good enough in the end.

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    The Packers were 13-3 last year and in the NFC Championship game in OT against the eventual champion Giants. The only thing that changed is that Rodgers came in. The Jets were 4-12 last year, and went 9-7 this year. Favre has something that wasn't quantifiable. Now the Jets leap forward isn't all Favre, because the defense was energized by Kris Jenkins, and then they got old midway through the season, as did Favre. Rodgers definitely had better stats, but he also playedi n a worse division. Overall, it's impossible to decide right now. Apparently the Pack was building for the future, and the Jets wanted to win right now. The Jets improved greatly, but did not make the playoffs. The Pack lost a lot of games. So I'll wait to judge, but I will say the most compelling evidence to me is that the Pack went from 13-3 last season to 5-11 this season with the only major change is losing Favre.
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    Nothing changed? The Packers had the second ranked defense in the league last year this year they had the 11th which played a huge difference in their close games.

    Please lets not forget how poorly Favre played in the NFC championship specifically at the end of the game. Favre has faded down the stretch the last two seasons and that can not be denied.

    The jets also made significant additions to the team outside of Favre. The one thing that is quantifiable is that the Jets did not make the playoffs this year despite the addition of Favre.

    Again it was clearly the best move for the Packers in terms making sure their future was protected. Now the Jets may have one year left of Favre before they have to start from scratch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    The only thing that changed is that Rodgers came in.
    Their defense was hurt badly by injuries, especially the one to Cullen Jenkins. Without him being in the middle and KGB's complete decline (and their eventual dumping of him) teams were free to focus on Aaron Kampmann taking away pretty much any semblance of a pass rush.

    Their secondary while having big pick numbers from Nick Collins and Charles Woodson also had a major tendency to get burned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Now the Jets leap forward isn't all Favre, because the defense was energized by Kris Jenkins,
    If we're quantifying the significance of the off season acquisitions by the Jets I'm putting Favre 3rd at maximum. Jenkins and Alan Faneca were both more valuable than he was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Rodgers definitely had better stats, but he also playedi n a worse division.
    The Packers' division may have been worse but in playing the NFC and AFC South while the Jets got to play the NFC and AFC West they had a significantly harder schedule.

    Brett Favre is a great player, and no doubt a first ballot hall of famer. But right now he's arguably the most overrated player in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    Nothing changed? The Packers had the second ranked defense in the league last year this year they had the 11th which played a huge difference in their close games.
    With the same personnel. Maybe they didn't have confidence in Rodgers and played worse because of a lack of confidence in the offense? Who knows? We're delving out of the realm of wauntifiable things and into the innerworkings of a human mind.

    Please lets not forget how poorly Favre played in the NFC championship specifically at the end of the game. Favre has faded down the stretch the last two seasons and that can not be denied.
    I didn't deny it, especially this season.

    The jets also made significant additions to the team outside of Favre. The one thing that is quantifiable is that the Jets did not make the playoffs this year despite the addition of Favre.
    Well, it is also quantifiable that the Packers went from 13-3 to 5-11.

    Again it was clearly the best move for the Packers in terms making sure their future was protected. Now the Jets may have one year left of Favre before they have to start from scratch.
    It is not clearly the best move at all. What if Rodgers tears an ACL next year? Then what? To evaluate if this is a success for the Packers you have to look at years down the road, as that is the purpose of the trade, to build for the future. It obviously wasn't anything about winning this season.
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    I think the stats you cite are after 16 weeks. For example, the stats I'm looking at show Rodgers with 4,038 yard passing compared to 3,239 for Farve.

    Another interesting comparison is Farve vs Chad Pennington, the orphan the Jets dumped for Farve.

    Completions
    Pennington 299 of 446 67%
    Favre 322 of 482 67%

    Yards passing
    Pennington 3,453 ave 7.7
    Favre 3239 ave. 6.7

    Yards per game
    Pennington 230.2
    Favre 215.9

    TD Passes
    Pennington 17
    Favre 21

    Interceptions
    Pennington 7
    Favre 21


    Rating
    Pennington 96.4
    Favre 84.0

    Record
    Pennington Dolphins 11-5 AFC East Champs
    Favre Jets 9-7
    Last edited by RYou; 12-28-2008 at 09:53 PM.
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