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Old 09-17-2007, 03:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How come wrestling gets cut for Title IX reasons but football never gets cut? Is there a reason besides money?
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think that's it: money--whether it be revenue from the gate, from TV rights, from corporate sponsors like Nike (swoosh), or from alumni who donate to the school because of their football team. Unfortunately schools spend a lot of time and effort acquiring money and perpetuating themselves (in that sense, similar to the modern corporation), and lofty aspirations such as turning out well rounded student-athletes sometimes may take a back seat.
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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To me its another hypocrisy. Football is as sexist as a sport can get and yet it thrives in college.
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Boston University cut their football program a while ago and kept wrestling.
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Old 09-17-2007, 04:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Football scholarships have been cut.

If you think it's bad now, you should have seen it before.

Schools like Notre Dame would give free rides to players just so their opponets couldn't have them.

Guys had scholarships and never hit the field in 4 years.

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Canisius in Buffalo dropped football a few years back.
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Old 09-17-2007, 04:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Pretty much all about the Benjamins. Big name football and basketball bring in BIG money for schools, so for the most part they've been safe from being cut.
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Pretty much all about the Benjamins. Big name football and basketball bring in BIG money for schools, so for the most part they've been safe from being cut.
I've read that this is only true for a small percentage of schools. Many schools end up losing money on these sports. They invest heavily but are not able to achieve success and end up losing money.
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I've read that this is only true for a small percentage of schools. Many schools end up losing money on these sports. They invest heavily but are not able to achieve success and end up losing money.
That is true. Many schools dream of pulling a Boise State, so they invest time, money and effort into football when in reality, it probably just won't happen.
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I recently saw a list of D1 schools and their revenue. Majority on the list lose money big time, yet they still dump a ton into for that one time chance of maybe making a bowl game.

I wonder if the new academic rules will start to affect teams. I just can't believe that D1 football is allowed 85 scholarships or whatever the outrageous number is. Majority of those guys that stick it out for 4 yrs rarely ever see playing time while many other kids could be playing other sports and would be seeing regular playing time.
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I don't think you can debate the fact that there are tens of thousands of students that gain the opportunity to attend college due to athletics that otherwise would not have had the opportunity. Colleges have long realized that extracurricular activities including athletics enhance the experience on campus for non-participants too. As for college football being sexist, that is just another misfire from the hip (Big hips at that.)

Here is an interesting website that details the 2004-2005 income and expense statements from 141 public universities. The Indystar also requested the same info from the Div I privates but none responded.

http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_reports/

Revenue from the mens and womens basketball, football and hockey often support the expense of maintaining the non-revenue sports.
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