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Gay goes 9.84 to win the 100 beating Bolt who ran a 9.97.

First race of any distance that Bolt has lost in two years.

I don't disagree as the fact of the matter is the last time Gay put up a time this fast Bolt ran a 9.58 and just annihilated him.

Just making note of the fact that it happened.

I saw that and thought someone had put Bolt on the list of greatest athletes on the other thread. I must have seen that on one of the top ten lists I googled. But, does anyone think that Bolt might be on an "off cycle" of steroids? I know he passed the Olympic testing, but I still wonder. It's sad when I have to wonder about every athlete, but these are the times.

Originally Posted by vaisforlovers

You do have to wonder but he's been subject to stringent drug testing like everyone. I think it's more of a bod.y cycle than a steroid cycle. Body can't peak but so many times a year.

I hope you are right. I hate that I have to think that everytime someone does something that is athletically amazing. Since I have never been an elite athlete, I will take your word on the peaking thing. At least it will ease my mind for now.

Originally Posted by quinn14

I hope you are right. I hate that I have to think that everytime someone does something that is athletically amazing. Since I have never been an elite athlete, I will take your word on the peaking thing. At least it will ease my mind for now.

Have to agree, how many world class sprinters run sub 10 second 100's every time out. Bolts 9.97 was on a bad day??

Originally Posted by vaisforlovers

Almost all of them....or they aren't world class.

That's part of my thinking process. If you are on the verge of world class, do you take the drugs or not. It's everyone's own decision. I just wonder if Bolt did it or not. He comes from a poor country and would probably do anything to get out or make money. I don't blame him. Believe me, I don't judge anyone who chooses to take steroids. I'm just saying, I am a little gun-shy to say he didn't.

And growing up, I was gun-shy to say someone did. Don't know if I got more cynical, more aware, or if athletes really did change their mindset. I see LeBron, Bosh and Wade teaming up instead of trying to beat each other, baseball players moving anywhere just for the money, ect.... I just don't trust any athlete anymore.

My short list of those I do trust(in baseball, basketball, football) are Albert Pujols, Ken Griffey Jr., Steve Nash, Dirk Now(however you spell it), Chris Paul, Brett Favre, Carson Palmer and Brady Quinn. And I think Brady will do anything to get a start, so he's iffy.