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Discuss Lost Series Finale at the Non Wrestling Talk within the Wrestling Talk Forums; the island was not purgatory, they were all alive and the events actually happened. the ...
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    the island was not purgatory, they were all alive and the events actually happened. the alternate reality was purgatory.

    I hated the final 15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oc View Post
    Strictly speaking Purgatory is not a place, it is a state of being. People could come and go because, people spend different amounts of time in Purgatory. The Island was a place in Purgatory, an experience of Purgatory maybe would be better. The whole reality the people experienced was Purgatory. At the end Benjamin did not enter the Church he said he wasn't ready, his soul needed more cleansing. If the white light at the end was Heaven, there are only two ways to get there, directly at death (be a Saint) or via Purgatory (the way most of the human race will get there). It would be interesting to read Dante's Purgatorio. The writers seemed to have modeled the show on it to some extent.
    The Island was not purgatory. The sideways world was.

    I know given your religious affiliation I may be beating my head against the wall trying to debate this but I guess I'm in glutton for punishment mode.

    In the scene where Jack is speaking to his father his father tells him that some of the people in the church died "long after" he did.

    Jack died on the island so he's presumably talking about Sawyer, Kate, Claire, Miles, Richard, and Lapidus who all made it off the island on the plane and then Hurley and Ben who lived out their lives as island protector and consiglierie respectively.

    He also tells Jack that the most important part of his "life" was spent with those specific people on the island. So important to where Jack and the rest of the people on the plane were stuck in purgatory/limbo until they were able to all reunite and then move on.

    Its as likely that Ben chose to stick around because he wanted to spend more time with his daughter.

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    The only way it would have been more explicitly stated that the island events were real and the sideways reality was purgatory was if lindlelof/cuse came on screen and told us. Although they did mention in interviews many times that the island was not purgatory so maybe that would be unnecessary.

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    I also still have a lot of unanswered questions, from my perspective the show had two major components: the mythology & history of the island and its inhabitants, and the stories/development of the characters.

    I thought the finale did a great job with wrapping up the character side of it, but not as much with the mythology side. I am glad we got that episode near the end about Jacob and the man in black though.

    I really liked how the series ended with Jack closing his eye, since the beginning of it was Jack opening his eye when he woke up after the crash.
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    Stardust i agree, i didnt need a ton of really specific answers just an ending that attempted to tie everything together. It seems like the writers decided to wrap up the character side of things, couldnt come up with a good way to wrap the island mythology/history and then decided to play the "it was always about the characters" angle. The show has always been great about balancing the two and in the end they completely abandoned the mythology side of things.

    Overall i loved the show, thought they did a great job with writing and acting but the end left me feeling that future rewatches of earlier seasons will be tarnished a bit.

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    Stardust, The Man in Black was The Enemy, he tried to convince the dying that only he could love them, they being so sinful and all. He represents the choice all have, choose Life or Death. No one could of survived the plane crash, it was strewn over the beach in pieces. Everyone was dying and resolving their fate. It was a Jesuit morality play about salvation. Very good, now that I know where the writers are coming from I might watch the series.

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    oc,
    If the island were purgatory, how where their babies born on the island?

    And how did people leave the island?

    Question for all ...

    Why did they show the island sunken to the bottom of the ocean at the beginning of the season?

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    This show reminded me of the art majors at college who dressed and acted all artsy and eccentric, but actually sucked at art.

    The writers were drowning us in symbolism and clever twists which had absolutely no substance. This show was all fluff.

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    You leave purgatory when your time there is done, all in purgatory go to Heaven. Maybe the woman giving birth was pregnant before the crash. I didn't follow it like many here did but the symbolism at the end was hard to miss, opening the doors into the Light, into Glory. The only way you can get into Heaven other than directly is via Purgatory. The island may be just the place the plane crashed, there is no doubt in my mind though that the drama was a dramatization of both the Particular Judgment/Purgatorial experience. The fella floating in the sea did not go through the Purgatorial experience, his Particular Judgment was much, much, harsher. As Stardust points out the series ends with Jack closing his eyes, he's probably on the same spot on the beach, he never really left it as he was undergoing his Purgatorial experience. What played out over six seasons took place in a much more compressed time span.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oc View Post
    I didn't follow it like many here did
    Judging by your posts in this thread, this much is obvious.

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