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Thread: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

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    Default Re: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

    All we can go on is results. Anything else is pretty much irrelevant.
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  2. #20

    Default Re: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

    I don't see what being undefeated has to do with it. Both guys have been beaten. You asked me who had defeated Fedor and I have documented that for you. I also included a very questionable victory that many believe should be a loss. Feel free to include as many losses for Silva as you wish, as I don't believe any loss years back has any relevance to an outcome today. People improve and what happened over 2 years ago is not necessarily indicative of what would happen today.

    You say I am making your argument for you but what is your argument, that Silva is not undefeated? I thought we all knew that.

  3. #21

    Default Re: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

    For some reason, Adolf really wants Fedor to get beat.

  4. #22

    Default Re: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

    Not at all Mr. Pimach. I am merely complimenting Mr. Silva for being in the discussion. I pointed out that his outstandig performance at 185 is still 2 weight classes down from Fedor, a man who hasn't lost in 7 1/2 years. I even said that if Fedor fought Silva's fight, Silva may have a shot at beating him.

    I bleieve these are my comments that are in question, and that are making Mr. Brigades argument for him:

    Fedor at 230 or so is the guy that all others are measured against. Could Silva so it? Could he beat Fedor when only one or two others have been able to do it, and no one in recent memory? It all depends on the Fedor strategy. If he chooses to stand with Silva and shoot it out anything can happen. If Fedor is able to clinch and get the fight to the ground, he wins 10/10 times.

  5. #23

    Default Re: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

    Oh ok, I thought maybe it was because of that whole German/Russian WWII thing.

  6. #24

    Default Re: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

    We had that won Pimach. France gave us a false sense of security and we pushed forward too soon. We should have won.

  7. #25

    Default Re: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

    shoulda, woulda, coulda. See what happens when you trust the French.

  8. #26

    Default Re: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

    Hang on a sec here, Old Ballcoach. You're bringing up a win over an elite fighter and a DQ "loss" by Fedor from nearly 8 years ago as somehow neutralizing Silva's 3 losses, 2 by submission and 1 by DQ, to relatively subpar competition within the past 5 years.

    The point is, Fedor's never truly been beaten. Period. That's why it's relevant. Silva has shown he can be beaten, and occasionally beaten by a sub-.500 fighter. That's an important distinction. Silva's opponents KNOW he can be beaten b/c it's happened on several occasions. Fedor's opponents don't have that luxury.

    Also, you questioned whether or not Fedor would fight Silva's game, but Fedor's strongest suit of all, by far, is his ability to formulate effective strategy. Needless to say, I doubt Fedor could be suckered into fighting a Muay Thai fight with Silva.
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  9. #27

    Default Re: Josh Gross: Anderson Silva could win 3/10 fights against Fedor

    Quote Originally Posted by DingoBrigade View Post
    All we can go on is results. Anything else is pretty much irrelevant.

    I'm not sure what point you are arguing Dingo. We all agree that the results are that Fedor has been beaten and I provided the result for you since it seemed you were unaware of it. Now if you want to start discounting certain results, then your statement about results is all we can go on, is pretty much invalid.

    I tend to not put too much stock in results over 2 years old. People improve, people change weight classes, etc. Silva is clearly the best he's ever been presently, no matter how many times he's been DQ'd, caught with the most unexpected submission in memory, or just plain got beat. Don't tell me Fedor would lose to the same opponent again, he's simply improved too much.

    I have never argued that Silva is unbeaten, not sure why you keep bringing up his losses. I suppose I could bring up some losses that other fighters have sustained, but that would also be irrelevant.

    My position is that Fedor has not been defeated in years, and if he chooses to have a stand up battle with Anderson, he could very well finally lose again. I don't think that's too far of a stretch. But what's not a stretch is that if we're discussing a 185 pounders chances against the consensus number 1 heavyweight in the world, that 185 pounder is pretty damn remarkable.

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