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    On Kimbo:
    Aleks Emelianenko: In reality, as a fighter, as a fighter he?s weak. For me anyway. My promoter [Vadim Finkelshtein] suggested this fight to his promoters, that I go there and fight Kimbo. And they?re not taking the fight. They realize that for me he?s too weak.
    I won?t be fighting with him, playing with him. I?ll go there and tear him apart, bite him in two. Exactly like it was with me and [James] Thompson, whom it took almost three rounds for Kimbo to put away. No. He?s to be congratulated on one hand, though. ?
    What does he need? For people to know about him. For people to have seen him. Everyone earns money anyway they can these days. He?s not a fighter, he?s not a sportsman. I?d say he?s more like a showman. I can say this about him.
    As a sportsman he?s very one-dimensional. Hands? Is that all? These days everyone can use their hands. When fighters at a decent level compete, you won?t understand who he was before. A boxer or a wrestler. ? I train with boxers. I used to beat -- I now beat world champions. I box with them. I?m not a fighter that fought with fatties, with who knows who on some field or something. That?s not a display of his prowess as a fighter. It?s just a show. They are elements of a show.
    On the UFC:
    Aleks Emelianenko: I also wanted to fight in the UFC . But as a Russian fighter, I?m not interesting to them. They are interested in their own, in Americans. That?s why they didn?t let me compete in their organization. They were saying that ?We don?t want Aleksander to fight for us.? Because I?d arrive there, beat everyone and then take the belt back to Russia. They don?t need that.
    Those organizers, promoters, they need their own person. That?s how they make their money. And that?s how they carry themselves, the UFC. I know that as of right now, they?ve ruined relationships with many and that many fighters have left them. They are now facing some very serious competition, and I think they?ll fall. I think they?ll fall to the second tier. To the place where they were, when Pride still existed.
    Pride was better; Pride was number one in the world. So I think that it?s criticism of the organizers -- it?s not a criticism of the fighters. They?re worthy sportsmen. Good fighters. It?s a criticism of the organizers, of the promoters. They take everything and just wreck it. Instead they should be strengthening everything, making everything stronger, stronger and stronger. But people are leaving them.
    Instead they now have very serious, very worthy competition in the world. And not that much time will go by before things change.

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    The UFC probably was guilty of using mainly American fighters (possibly to save money and to avoid visa issues), but not really anymore. So many Brazilians in the UFC and it looks like they want Europeans.

    Aleks would be great in the UFC, get him away from his brother. I would also like to see him rematch Cro Cop
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    IMO, Aleksander would step into the Octogon and whoop up on anyone they have in the division now. I love his comment about the promoters taking it all and wrecking everything.
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    Forget teh UFC-Get the Kimbo fight-I would love it. Everyone knows that they will keep Kimbo away from anyone good. Finally someone to expose Kimbo
    Lets see now, how many have called Kimbo out and he still gets fights that are entry level, yet hyped for Prime time?
    Jeff Monson called him out on youtube.
    Aleks now calls him out
    Brett Rogers
    Anyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjfovf View Post
    IMO, Aleksander would step into the Octogon and whoop up on anyone they have in the division now. I love his comment about the promoters taking it all and wrecking everything.
    He's going to have a rough time with Nogueira. Aleks is very good, but he's not his brother.
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    He's going to have a rough time with Nogueira. Aleks is very good, but he's not his brother.
    Aleks v Nogueira or Mir vs Nogueira, which would you want to see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gjfovf View Post
    Aleks v Nogueira or Mir vs Nogueira, which would you want to see?
    Honestly, I'm intrigued about Mir-Nogueira. I expect Nog to dominate, but Mir's JJ is very aggressive, and NOgueira leaves himself open to submmission attempts quite a bit with his own highly offensive style. I think Aleks has a LOT of potential, but Fedor's interviews paint a picture of a physically gifted but mentally weak fighter. Either way, between the two, Mir has the best win, his win over Big Tim. I'm not highly interested in either fight at this point, though, tbh. I'd love to see: Cro Cop-Nog II; Nog-Werdum II (I know the first was boring, but I think the second time would be better); Nog-Arlovski. All 3 of those are more intriguing to me then the Nog-Mir OR Nog-Aleks fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Honestly, I'm intrigued about Mir-Nogueira. I expect Nog to dominate, but Mir's JJ is very aggressive, and NOgueira leaves himself open to submmission attempts quite a bit with his own highly offensive style. I think Aleks has a LOT of potential, but Fedor's interviews paint a picture of a physically gifted but mentally weak fighter. Either way, between the two, Mir has the best win, his win over Big Tim. I'm not highly interested in either fight at this point, though, tbh. I'd love to see: Cro Cop-Nog II; Nog-Werdum II (I know the first was boring, but I think the second time would be better); Nog-Arlovski. All 3 of those are more intriguing to me then the Nog-Mir OR Nog-Aleks fight.
    Mir clammed up against Pano, just kind of let himself be pounded out on the bottom fearing he would be submitted if he tried too hard to escape (my impression at least)

    So I'm afraid he will respect Nog's skills to much and lose once it hits the ground (lose standing too).

    Cro-Cop-Nog 2 - one of the biggest UFC mistakes. Should be another classic with Nog's heart and CC's striking and takedown defense.

    Nog-Werdum - no interest from me. That could be a lame 5 round decision.

    Arlovski was another mistake by the UFC. He was the best the UFC had when Pride had the best Hwts - I wanted to see him match up against many of those guys and we didn't get any (other than Werdum, but I didn't have him in mind).
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    Considering that Nogueira has never been submitted, or even very close to being submitted, I think it's sort of a stretch to say that he leaves himself open for submissions. Ricco and Werdum both have superior BJJ and neither of them were close to submitting him.

    Also, Aleks has never lost to substandard HWTs or a 205 like Mir has. He's lost to 3 elite HWTs and stopped another elite HWT in Kharitonov.

    I think Nogueira is still an elite HWT, but it's his standup and takedown defense that have eroded somewhat, not his ground game. I think Aleks could give him fits, with his strong boxing and elite level Sambo and judo background.

    I'm with you, Claudale, Nogueira/Werdum is a map to Boring City.
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