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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyshackleford View Post
    Am I the only one who has no interest in seeing Ken Shamrock fight at all? Possibly the most overrated fighter of all time, and way, WAY past his prime at that. He just doesn;t interest me.
    I'd like to see him beat Frank, but otherwise he just continues to damage his legacy.
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    I'm kind of curious how the mainstream will react to this one. On one hand, most ardent MMA fans know that these two don't get along very well and haven't for a long time. But brother vs. brother just seems kind of wrong, and the masses might view it that way.

    Then again, all publicity is good publicity, right? It will be interesting to see what happens here.

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    Default Re: Shamrock vs. Shamrock could be next

    Quote Originally Posted by rustyshackleford View Post
    Am I the only one who has no interest in seeing Ken Shamrock fight at all? Possibly the most overrated fighter of all time, and way, WAY past his prime at that. He just doesn;t interest me.
    I don't get the Ken hate. Had he not fought in pancrase 4 days prior, I think he would have been more dominant and beat Royce.

    Everyone heralds Bas as the greatest and shit on Ken for whatever reasons. I understand not liking him, but the out right hatred?

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    I don't hate him at all, I just don't consider him an all-time great and I'm bewildered when people do. I think a strong argument can be made that Ken was the best at old-school Pancrase, but in my opinion, the rules and regulations of that organization at that time were perfectly suited to his strengths and weaknesses.

    In mainstream MMA, his resume does not merit consideration as an elite fighter.
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    I don't hate him either, and don't think my previous post should be taken that way. I just have no interest in seeing him fight. He is overrated IMO, and is way past his prime. I have no desire to watch him fight. He is a washed up shell of his former self. I know everyone gets old, but don't shoot me for not wanting to watch Ken get beat up again. At this age, he provides little talent and little excitement. Not hate, just the facts.

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    Ken outstruck Bas in their two fights in Pancrase.
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    I beg to differ. I've seen their fights. Only one of their two fights lasted past roughly a minute and Bas is the only Pancrase fighter I've seen who could actually inflict punishment with the ridiculous striking limitations. Ken had ZERO KOs or TKOs in Pancrase, despite being one of the better participants. Bas had 9. No one in Pancrase was even close in striking, especially Ken. Ken's goal vs. Bas and everyone else was to get it to the ground or get a hold of a leg.
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    Ok, he outstrick hin in both fights, but one fight was short and the other fight spent a lot of time on the ground.

    Here's the 1st fight:

    [ame="http://www.veoh.com/videos/v355185fxJGxemM?confirmed=1"]Ken Shamrock Vs. Bas Rutten 1, Pancrase - Road To The Championship 3 | Veoh Video Network[/ame]

    Shamrock won all but one of the exchanges. On the ground, he dominated, and effectively submitted Rutten 4 times. The final and fight ending submission was a choke, by the by, and one of the best RNC's I've seen.

    What does the fact that Bas was a better striker in his other fights have to do with anything? In THEIR fights, Ken outstruck him. Cro Cop is a better striker then Fedor in their other fights, but in their head to head fight, Fedor struck wel with him and many feel he outstruck the Croatian.
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    I hve no idea what happened there.
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