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    Default Matt Lindland Claims That UFC Contracts Are Illegal

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    Republican House of Representatives candidate and - of course - highly respected middleweight Matt Lindland believes there is something very wrong with the contracts from MMA?s top organization.
    The UFC contracts are illegal. Based on the Muhammad Ali (Safety) Act, you cannot be the promoter and the manager at the same time,? Lindland said, ?If they are telling you who and when you are going to fight, they are the manager as well as the promoter.?
    I am definitely not a lawyer so it is hard to fully judge the validity of the statement, but in reading the Act, Lindland does make a few good points on how much control an organization can have over a fighter.
    Lindland also said that one fighter in particular is planning to test the Act in court.
    I believe that is what Randy (Couture) is saying as well.?

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    I don't believe that Lindland is a lawyer, and you can bet you bottom dollar that the UFC has a legion of high priced contract lawyers draw up all their contracts. I am sure that they have all of the loopholes and ins and outs all covered. I agree that he makes some valid points, but you have to be able to prove it in court.
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    I think that's an interesting point. They never allowed fighters to have true agents/managers who are entirely in the fighters interest. They always wanted to deal with guys who were friendly to them - not the type other sports players use, where guys demand truly outrageous sums.

    Interesting if he stands up for Randy, because I think Randy could have saved Lindland back in the day. Lindland was cut when Randy-Chuck 2 was in the works and clearly that was the biggest UFC matchup at that time. I never heard Randy comment at all (which doesn't mean he didn't try, but we didn't know of it and I suspect he could have saved him).

    Sure Lindland has access to lawyers as well, and as anyone knows who deals with them a lot, lawyers are willing to do what clients want in most circumstances.
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    Most probably the UFC promotes the fights under one subsidiary or LLC and manages the fighters under another subsidiary/LLC? It's done all the time in the entertainment industry when an actor is hired by his own production company that is producing the film.

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    If this were true, wouldn't Randy's lawsuit had made it to court already? I agree with gj - the UFC has to have a crapload of lawyers working for them. I like Lindland (though I wouldn't vote for him) but I think he's just pulling crap out of his booty to get some pub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestater View Post
    If this were true, wouldn't Randy's lawsuit had made it to court already? I agree with gj - the UFC has to have a crapload of lawyers working for them. I like Lindland (though I wouldn't vote for him) but I think he's just pulling crap out of his booty to get some pub.
    Why do you think this case (or any other) would breeze right through? This is a civil matter with claims and counter claims - I didn't even know Randy was saying this.

    Also Cuban said he was going to provide legal support to Randy (although it seems that Cuban has cooled his heels at the moment, maybe waiting for some other MMA organizations challenging the UFC to dissolve). I think the UFC is perfectly content with dragging this thing out so Randy can never be someone else's main event against Fedor
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    I have heard that Randy's ties with the UFC are up sometime this year, regardless of him fighting or not. They can't hold him forever.
    Lindland does have some good point, but I am sure not too many new fighter s have walked into Dana's office with an agent and demanded anything. They get what they can get and deal with it until they start making a name for themselves. I know Brandon vera had an actual agent and the deal went sour after negotiations with the UFC.
    Lindland will not be seen in the UFC for other various reason, none having to do with his paychecks from the UFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    Why do you think this case (or any other) would breeze right through? This is a civil matter with claims and counter claims - I didn't even know Randy was saying this.

    Also Cuban said he was going to provide legal support to Randy (although it seems that Cuban has cooled his heels at the moment, maybe waiting for some other MMA organizations challenging the UFC to dissolve). I think the UFC is perfectly content with dragging this thing out so Randy can never be someone else's main event against Fedor
    We would have heard something about the claims and counter claims, and if the contracts were illegal, as Lindland is alleging, wouldn't Couture's lawsuit use this strategy?

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    BSer - I think that is what Lindland is saying; that Randy is pursuing that angle.

    Greco - I think it comes down to the retirement/resignation dispute. Randy says he can fight in October while the UFC says he has to fight for them 2 more times before he can go elsewhere. That's why they still list him as the champ

    Remember too that if Randy fought two more times and was champ at the end of his contract, it would automatically renew itself.
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