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    Default Chuck v. Wanderlei at UFC 79: Its Official

    http://mmajunkie.com/2007/10/23/chuc...ally-official/

    All I can say is finally. While it certainly doesn't have the luster it would have had last November when both still had their belts, this is a match up many have waited for, for a long time.
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    Default Re: Chuck v. Wanderlei at UFC 79: Its Official

    Do you think if Chuck loses this one, he'll be done?

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    Default Re: Chuck v. Wanderlei at UFC 79: Its Official

    You know I'm really not sure, you would think he would be. It would really depend to, on how many fights he's got left on his deal.
    RIP Jacob Schlottke - 1984-2011

    "If Cornell finishes ahead of Iowa with five all americans I'll jump into the Des Moines River after finals." -Herkey#1 8/16/12

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    Default Re: Chuck v. Wanderlei at UFC 79: Its Official

    The thing with Chuck and MMA in general is that it used to be that the best fighters in every division were mainly grapplers. You didn't have many top-notch strikers.

    Liddell has taken out great grapplers like Tito Ortiz, Renato Sobral, Randy Couture, Jeremy Horn, Guy Mezger, Vitor Belfort, Kevin Randlemen, Jeff Monson, and Alistair Overeem.

    The thing is that Liddell was the only fighter able to resist the takedowns of grapplers, due to his extensive wrestling knowledge, and that was why he was able to beat so many great grapplers.

    Now, we're having more "mixed" style fighters in MMA. Now there is an increasing number of fighters who are good at striking and grappling, and can therefore choose to not let the fight get to the ground.

    ANYWAYS, it seems to me that for Chuck, this is a bad situation. His style of striking isn't really the best, and I wouldn't doubt it that a good kickboxer w/ decent grappling could beat him. In fact, I'd say that if Cro Crop cut enough weight, he could defeat Liddell.

    So I'm going to say Wanderlei wins, due to his stand up being better. If Liddell doesn't drastically improve his kickboxing or his submission grappling, we might see him fighting in some lower-level organizations in the future, if at all.

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    Default Re: Chuck v. Wanderlei at UFC 79: Its Official

    I have to admit I haven't watched as much UFC in the past two years as I'd like, but I have watched my share of Pride bouts.

    I'm a fan of Wanderlei, but I didn't think he'd be able to use his knees and elbows as much in the UFC. Is this truly the case, or am I thinking of rules from a few years ago?

    I've been wanting to see this fight for 5 years, so I'm just hoping it lives up to the expectations.

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    UFC doesn't allow knees to a downed opponent, PRIDE did. However he actually will have more of an opportunity to use elbows, as PRIDE didn't allow elbows to a downed opponent, the UFC does.
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    Default Re: Chuck v. Wanderlei at UFC 79: Its Official

    Thank you Supreme Emperor.

    From past fights, he seemed to use more knees while on his feet anyway. Kinda Thai boxing style, so that won't have to change.

    I'm just a little bummed that this fight is coming when both are past their primes to a certain extent.

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