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    If someone goes out and dominates another fighter and gets a tko, he dominated and earned his win. If he's dominating and then catches his opponent with a huge shot and KO's him, he did exactly that, he caught him. That doesn't take away in my book from the performance, he was just able to catch him, in addition to dominating him.

    In wrestling, if someone is up 10-0 and then runs a half and pins the guy, pretty straight forward as to what happened. Now if the same guy is up 10-0 and then hits a defensive spladle, he absolutely did catch his opponent and pinned him. That's the way I see it and in no way does catching an opponnent take away from what was already happening.
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    I don't see "he got caught" as necessarily a negative or slight against the guy that won. And in some cases, "got caught" is the perfect description of what happened. In fact, this might actually be one of those cases. Neither guy was imposing his will or winning the fight, Faber made a mistake, and he "got caught" making that mistake. It makes it no less a victory and takes nothing away from Mike Brown for capitalizing on that mistake, but it is a different type of KO or victory than a fight where the winner is imposing his will, methodically wearing the opponent down, and finishes him with an onslaught (a la Anderson Silva) rather than one, well-timed, well-placed shot.


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  3. #12

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    Maybe a good definition of "catching" someone is finishing the match/fight/etc in a way that is unlikely to happen again?

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    Metsfan said it very well. Getting caught is just that, getting caught with something that ends the fight, or leads right into the end of it. Any way you want to say it, a huge shot that lands and ends the fight is by definition, catching the guy.
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    There are a number of fighters who have had very successful careers by 'catching' opponents after absorbing a beating or being controlled throughout the fight. Nogueira, Hermes Franca, Nate Diaz are three who immediately come to mind.

    Unexpected, I can agree with...I have a hard time with caught. If the 'caught' fighter had his hands up, or didn't leave his head entangled, etc....they wouldn't have been caught. I don't see how every KO or submission isn't a case of being caught.
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    Dingo, most Ko's and submissions are a case of being caught. The fact that a fighter has his hands down doesn't mean he didn't get caught. And BTW, great examples of those 3 guys who can catch an opponent at any time and turn defeat into victory. Minotauro's last win was classic. He gets beat to a pulp for nearly 3 rounds and then in his only offense of the fight, catches Tim Sylvia with a guillotine. Beautiful set up for the sweep and fantastic finish with the choke. Classic Noguiera win. If Mino didn't catch him with the choke, what is it that he did?
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    I came from a family of both boxing and wrestling. However, and to me, "getting caught" only applies well to wrestling. At least how we think of the term "getting caught."

    In boxing, you are trained to take people out with one punch. If it lands, you go out; it's that simple and no amount of defense will prevent that. You rarely "get caught."

    In wrestling, try a roll through or a granby and if the guy is sitting back and waiting you you, guess what? You literally "got caught" in a bad move. In boxing, a big punch is a one shot deal, and defense can't always stop that.

    That's why I don't feel it applies very well to boxing, but it certainly applies well to wrestling.
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    BTW: I was sorry to hear that about Faber, though. I didn't know of this, and have always wished the best for him. He's a fun fighter to watch; a buzzsaw, to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ban basketball View Post
    I came from a family of both boxing and wrestling. However, and to me, "getting caught" only applies well to wrestling. At least how we think of the term "getting caught."

    In boxing, you are trained to take people out with one punch. If it lands, you go out; it's that simple and no amount of defense will prevent that. You rarely "get caught."

    In wrestling, try a roll through or a granby and if the guy is sitting back and waiting you you, guess what? You literally "got caught" in a bad move. In boxing, a big punch is a one shot deal, and defense can't always stop that.

    That's why I don't feel it applies very well to boxing, but it certainly applies well to wrestling.
    You don't think someone can sit a whole match looking for the "knockout" spladle?

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