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    Quote Originally Posted by barrettO View Post
    20K would be a bit much right now. On its own it would not signifigantly dent their profits, but it would drive up considerably the salaries of all the guys currently in the 20-50K range and that could be a serious hit to profits. Now a profit hit is not the end of the world, but like I said, the reason I think 5K should be a no brainer is that it wouldn't hurt anyone.

    Either way, the big problem is the lower tier fighters, but the upper tier guys are the only ones with the power to change it. I think the only hope is that a team/gym becomes so strong they can offer something comparable to a union in terms of negotiation. Couture is the only possibility I see, since I don't see the UFC growing a heart.
    Thats what it will come down to eventually, the fighters will get tired of fighting for 750 or 3ooo and like other sports will demand a minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimach View Post
    Thats what it will come down to eventually, the fighters will get tired of fighting for 750 or 3ooo and like other sports will demand a minimum.
    But it wont matter till the big name fighters back the little guys. The guys making 3k and under are disposable and their are hundreds of fighters who would jump in to replace them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    But it wont matter till the big name fighters back the little guys. The guys making 3k and under are disposable and their are hundreds of fighters who would jump in to replace them.
    its true that there are others who would want to take their place, but if there are enough of them it wont matter, the UFC has 200 plus fighters under contract and i'd say teh majority are not the big name, big money fighters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    But it wont matter till the big name fighters back the little guys. The guys making 3k and under are disposable and their are hundreds of fighters who would jump in to replace them.
    I agree. Mid-Level MMA is definitely a growth industry, as the grass roots and number of competitors is exploding. Taking that number of 200, right now even if the bottom 100 UFC fighters banded together it would have no impact. That would still leave them with their most important 20 guys in each weight class.

    It has to be the headliners fighting FOR the little guys. So far Randy and Tito are the only ones to stand up for themselves even, and nobody has shown thoughts of banding together UFC wide. But on the team level it could happen. Fedor tried to use his power to force the signings of his teammates. Randy is so well respected that he could do it. Especially when his fighting days are over and he does not need anything from the UFC (like he did in this latest conflict). I'd imagine that 5 years from now if Extreme Couture controls a few UFC champs and big names (hendricks adn rosholt?), that Randy wouldn't mind sticking it to Dana and the UFC with a pony up for everyone or the whole stabel walks type of thing. I honestly don't see any other way.

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    Barret - I wouldn't count on Randy to help out the little fighters (even though he mentioned them when he resigned).

    He was in the process of signing the 3rd fight with Chuck when Lindland was cut - they go way back and I have to think Randy could have stopped that if he wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    Barret - I wouldn't count on Randy to help out the little fighters (even though he mentioned them when he resigned).

    He was in the process of signing the 3rd fight with Chuck when Lindland was cut - they go way back and I have to think Randy could have stopped that if he wanted to.
    I honestly don't think he will, just that he is the most able. That is, unless some other promotion can avoid money problems long enough to be a true equal.

    The UFC is in a position of power being both the owner and the league. In pro team sports their are independent franchises that compete with each other AND a league. So in those sports the teams drive salaries up by competing with each other. Meanwhile the league makes the same money no matter what guys are paid. They just determine how the big profit pie is split up and then the owners spend how ever they see fit.

    In the UFC it's like Dana white represents the Red Sox, yankees, and every other team being owned by the commissioner. A great business model but not a model for equity. The truth is its about as close to unadulterated capitalsim as you come in our country. And I think the UFC could make a small gesture like 5K to keep complaints, bad press, government oversight, and a multitude of other problems out. Or they can ride the hot streak until it runs out.

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