500k for 14 seconds. - Page 2

Adolf Oliverbush · 10-07-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MetsFan

Well said, Mr. Oliverbush. However, that doesn't say much for the nominal amounts paid by UFC for several of the fighters on their cards does it?

That being said, here's a quote regarding Petruzelli's $50,000 purse from a sherdog article you might find of interest:
"Monday, he said he was paid in the “six-figure range,” though it is common for fighters to be paid additional compensation that is not reported through athletic commissions."

Perhaps, similar to what has been claimed by UFC proponents, a sack of money delivered to his hotel room accounts for the additional amount to reach six figures?

The one factor you are missing about the low pay of the UFc is that not a single one of their poorly paid fighters could attract 6 million plus people to tune to watch them fight, not even for 14 seconds.

I do wonder about that $50k/6 figure payday Petruzelli is talking about. Either he doesnt know how to count figures or someone's been giving us bad info regarding back room payoffs. Claudale?

MetsFan · 10-07-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Adolf Oliverbush

The one factor you are missing about the low pay of the UFc is that not a single one of their poorly paid fighters could attract 6 million plus people to tune to watch them fight, not even for 14 seconds.

Very true. Just noting that those lower paid fighters have to train just as much for their fights as we're suggesting Kimbo would have and because of their situation don't get a level of compensation that covers that training. Regardless of whether that's good or bad, right or wrong, if we're going to give him credit and compensation for work done prior to the 14 seconds (as we rightfully should), it's important to remember and discuss those guys who aren't getting that credit / compensation. Whle those guys might not be the draw, they remain an important part of the puzzle and overall product. You can't have a card with a just a couple fights on it because people will be pissed when they end in 14 seconds and there aren't any other fights to watch. And you can't fill every card with headliners or you'll go broke. Those other guys stoke the fire to keep the train running just as much as anybody else.

Adolf Oliverbush · 10-07-2008, 01:05 PM

I don't think you can compare a big draw like Kimbo, with anyone that isn't a big draw. Slice generates millions upon millions of dollars for the network and the promotion, thus of course he will receive every perk and bonus available.

Guys who don't bring in numbers are a dime a dozen. You don't have to give a single one of them anything beyond a couple of grand to show because if they don't want to do it, there will be a line behind them to step in and do it for less money. Supply and demand brother, simple economics.

It's kind of like a student who pays for years and doesn't make any income, all the while the university takes in huge profits. But after a few years, that student is ready to start making money and in many cases, big money. Pro MMA isn't for everybody and if some of these guys need more money, they really do need to look into another type of field, or get an education.

MetsFan · 10-07-2008, 01:37 PM

I hear ya and understand the hows and whys of what happens. It is, however, an example of how a handful of people get rich off the backs of many. Kimbo is the “big” draw that brings people in, but without all those other “little” guys, there is no sport of MMA for Kimbo to even participate in – thus he is unable to draw anybody to anywhere but the backyard. And, even if they are able to put on a Kimbo fight to the masses, those masses would not be pleased with the product if he is the only fight and it ends in 14 seconds. Just because the market allows it to happen doesn’t mean it’s ideal or even right or fair. I have no qualms with Kimbo getting his piece of the pie. I just don’t want to see us forget about those other guys or dismiss them as being a dime a dozen because doing so, in my opinion, unjustly diminishes their value to both the sport and business of MMA.

snakerattle79 · 10-10-2008, 03:13 AM

in the Audio pre fight press conference, Kimbo was telling Ken that he will give him a Free Shot in the Fight, I mean a Glazing Punch can Knock Kimbo down what more a Solid Clean Chin Shot from Ken..Kimbo is arrogant and he deserves to get KTFO

10-07-2008, 01:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Adolf Oliverbush Olympic Champ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 3,718	Re: 500k for 14 seconds. I don't think you can compare a big draw like Kimbo, with anyone that isn't a big draw. Slice generates millions upon millions of dollars for the network and the promotion, thus of course he will receive every perk and bonus available. Guys who don't bring in numbers are a dime a dozen. You don't have to give a single one of them anything beyond a couple of grand to show because if they don't want to do it, there will be a line behind them to step in and do it for less money. Supply and demand brother, simple economics. It's kind of like a student who pays for years and doesn't make any income, all the while the university takes in huge profits. But after a few years, that student is ready to start making money and in many cases, big money. Pro MMA isn't for everybody and if some of these guys need more money, they really do need to look into another type of field, or get an education. __________________ Lets go Brent!

10-07-2008, 01:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
MetsFan NCAA Champ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 1,208	Re: 500k for 14 seconds. I hear ya and understand the hows and whys of what happens. It is, however, an example of how a handful of people get rich off the backs of many. Kimbo is the “big” draw that brings people in, but without all those other “little” guys, there is no sport of MMA for Kimbo to even participate in – thus he is unable to draw anybody to anywhere but the backyard. And, even if they are able to put on a Kimbo fight to the masses, those masses would not be pleased with the product if he is the only fight and it ends in 14 seconds. Just because the market allows it to happen doesn’t mean it’s ideal or even right or fair. I have no qualms with Kimbo getting his piece of the pie. I just don’t want to see us forget about those other guys or dismiss them as being a dime a dozen because doing so, in my opinion, unjustly diminishes their value to both the sport and business of MMA. __________________ Shea Stadium 1964 - 2008 http://www.theopenmat.com/

10-10-2008, 03:13 AM	#15 (permalink)
snakerattle79 Round of 12 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 435	Re: 500k for 14 seconds. in the Audio pre fight press conference, Kimbo was telling Ken that he will give him a Free Shot in the Fight, I mean a Glazing Punch can Knock Kimbo down what more a Solid Clean Chin Shot from Ken..Kimbo is arrogant and he deserves to get KTFO

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