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    Agree that Shields doesn't have a lot of pop on his mount punches, but not every fighter does. Most GnPers don't have Shields arsenal of submissions, either. Even if his punches aren't going to finish a fight, I'm sure they don't tickle; many opponents will try to transition out of that position, exposing themselves to something out of Shields' bag of tricks. I think Daley deserves some credit; he weathered the storm and then popped Shields powerfully and repeatedly.
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    Daley reminded me a bit of Kongo on his feet. Looked awesome standing up, but clueless when he hit the ground.

    Maybe it was because Shields is so dominant on the ground.

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    Guys I am not trying to rip the guy, I just dont think he looked that good. I honestly believe that the guys I listed could beat him based on what I saw. I dont think he could beat Lawlor based on what I saw either. Lawlor has good strikes and is much better on the mat than Daley.

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    Well, Lawler is much bigger so I'm sure that would be a tough fight, but, for starters Chris Lytle ain't beating Shields in his wettest dream. I say that as one of the bigger Lytle fans around. He grew up within 10-15 minutes of my house and wrestled in the state finals at my weight class my senior year. I would favor Shields vs. Serra, Alves and Parisyan as well.

    You can use one tough fight against a superlative striker as your basis for analysis, or you can use an entire body of work. Shields' body of work is impressive and he's become a strong finisher of fights. GSP would wreck his structure, though.
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    I am just giving my opinion. But if he ever fought any of those guys I mentioned, I would put money on my guys. And I hate to put money on anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by DingoBrigade View Post
    Agree that Shields doesn't have a lot of pop on his mount punches, but not every fighter does. Most GnPers don't have Shields arsenal of submissions, either. Even if his punches aren't going to finish a fight, I'm sure they don't tickle; many opponents will try to transition out of that position, exposing themselves to something out of Shields' bag of tricks. I think Daley deserves some credit; he weathered the storm and then popped Shields powerfully and repeatedly.
    I think he can improve his pop from that position though - because he throws from there with just his arms. As Shamrock said during the fight, he gets no hip rotation in his punches or elbows from mount. His submission arsenal is great, and I'm not trying to turn him into a GnPer. Just saying that if he improved that technique to generate a litte more power, he'd be even more dangerous. At the very least you want those peppering punches/elbows to get the opponent to turn or otherwise open himself to a submission attempt. Ultimately that happened, but it took a long time despite multiple full mounts - partially to Daley's credit but also due to the fact that the punches weren't doing enough to bother him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MetsFan View Post
    I think he can improve his pop from that position though - because he throws from there with just his arms. As Shamrock said during the fight, he gets no hip rotation in his punches or elbows from mount. His submission arsenal is great, and I'm not trying to turn him into a GnPer. Just saying that if he improved that technique to generate a litte more power, he'd be even more dangerous. At the very least you want those peppering punches/elbows to get the opponent to turn or otherwise open himself to a submission attempt. Ultimately that happened, but it took a long time despite multiple full mounts - partially to Daley's credit but also due to the fact that the punches weren't doing enough to bother him.
    The thing is, big shots from the mount affect balance. To me, that's why it's a skill that is equal parts physiology and practice. Guys like Couture and Fedor are special in part b/c of their remarkable control and balance while loading up for big shots from the mount.
    You're right, though--his mounted shots looked pretty weak and it does seem to be a Cesar Gracie thing for some reason.
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