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Old 10-01-2008, 04:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I was referring to retiring from MMA and being sure he doesn't want to do MMA anymore. Although the UFC may still fight him for a while to tie things up, he probably could go into another sport. But, even if he can do it, I think he would be foolish to retire from MMA so he could box. He's at the top of the mountain in MMA and in the discussion of best p4p in the world. I'm guessing that brings him more accolades, attention, and money than he'd ever get as a boxer.

Well if he finishes his contract that would mean he went 13-0 in the ufc defending his title 11 times so his legacy would be safeand he would have little left to accomplis. If he wanted to box I see no reason he should not try it out. Posted via Mobile Device
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If he bounces back and forth between 185 & 205 without taking the 205 title, he wouldn't have 11 defenses ... but I hear what you're saying. I would just wonder if (1) the UFC would have something up their sleeve in regard to boxing being included in the non-compete clause that would at the very least make it a pain in the butt for him and cause delays, legal expenses, etc., and (2) he would be financially secure enough to stop fighting MMA and perhaps lose some of his MMA-related sponsors (although I guess some of them might stick with him as a boxer, at least until it's proven whether he would be competitive and a draw).
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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This is the link:

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...7242&zoneid=13

I wish Henderson and Franklin was a 5 round fight.

PJ - didn't realize he had that many fights left - damn. He's never lost in the UFC so this contract was probably automatic after the first one that started off with Leben.

I wish Shogun was facing someone else. If he just danced around for the first round Coleman would be too tired to walk out for round 2. I love Coleman, but he's never learned submissions like other wrestlers who got involved so long ago and he's always had terrible cardio. Also, the rumble between Chute Box and Hammerhouse isn't the same since Wanderlei now trains with Randy and the Hammerhouse has very few active fighters

PJ - unclear if he'd be allowed to retire and box (notice the comment "other professional fighting competition):

If at any time during the Term, Fighter decides to retire from mixed martial arts or other professional fighting competition," the clause begins, "then ZUFFA may, at its election, (i) suspend the Term for the period of such retirement; (ii) declare that ZUFFA has satisfied its obligation to promote all future Bouts to be promoted by ZUFFA hereunder, without any compensation due to Fighter therefore; or (ii) elect to provide Fighter with notice of an Acceleration."

For all practical purposes, sub clause (i) allows Zuffa to retain the rights to a retired fighter in perpetuity. Sherdog.com has confirmed that this clause does not appear in every Zuffa contract; it is believed to be reserved for top fighters.


Sherdog.com has confirmed the existence of a so-called champion's clause, which provides that "if, at the expiration of the Term, Fighter is then UFC champion, the Term shall be automatically extended for a period commencing on the Termination Date and ending on the earlier of (i) one (1) year from the Termination Date; or (ii) the date on which Fighter has participated in three (3) bouts promoted by ZUFFA following the Termination Date ("Extension Term"). Any references to the Term herein shall be deemed to include a reference to the Extension Term, where applicable."

This clause is designed to protect the company against a fighter leaving as champion and to prevent the company's champions from using their contractual status to demand more money. Zuffa appears to see the clause as an option of last resort, though, because it has consistently refused to grant a title bout to fighters with only one fight remaining on their contracts.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles...-contract-9734
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hendo and Rua both by tko. Rua must have a statement win. Coleman at 205? He must not be taking his "vitamins" anymore.
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