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    I am starting this thread in attempt to change things up a bit in here. I feel that almost every thread in here regardless of how it starts off turns into the political side of mma. Whether is commenting on the different org management styles, fighter pay, marketing strategies, who's ruining mma, who dislikes who etc etc etc.

    Those topics are fine and need to be discussed but for once I would also like to have a blog where we can talk purely about the fighting aspect of mma. Upcoming cards, rankings, top prospects, match ups you would like to see, which camps are the best and why, which skill is the best etc etc.

    Basically I would like this to be an ongoing thread where it can sort of flow from one topic to another without entering into all the politics of the sport. We all now where each other stands on the main issues of fighter pay or Dana White but i want to hear more actual fight talk.

    I am sure this thread could fail miserably and get mocked but it is worth a shot.

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    To start this off I am intrigued at some of the fighters on the undercard of tonights UFN. There quite a few wrestlers making their debut who dont have a lot of fan fare.

    Joe Vedepo is from Iowa and apparently was a multiple time state champ who was a solid college prospect before he ran into drinking and other personal problems. He is fighting Alessio Sakara who is a striker with a suspect chin and gas tank.

    Jason Brilz is a 3 time Nebraska state champ who also wrestled at Nebraska Omaha for three years. He is a big guy strong guy but I am not sure how advanced his other skills are. He is facing Brad Morris is who fighting at 205 for the first time after taking a vicious beating from Cain Velasquez at UFC 83.

    New Jersey is in the house. Mike Massenzio was a two time state champ, senior national champ and a d3 national champ. I believe he split matches with CB Dollaway in college but I could be a little off on that one. He is 10-2 but lost his last fight to a dangerous submission fighter who is now set to face Rosholt. Massenzio is fighting McFedries who is a very dangerious striker who has little ground game to offer. If Massenzio can avoid the early exchanges from McFedries I think he could win if not he will end up the way of Radev and Eastman.

    New Jersey still in the house. Jim Miller is another tough Jersey wrestler without the same credentials as Massenzio. He is however more advanced on the ground I believe he may have his brown belt. He also has decent stand up and won the IFL belt in his last fight. He is facing Rob Kimmons who is a pretty well rounded fighter who submitted his opponent in his UFC debut.

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    You're right; that's mainly what we talk about.

    Its good to know who the experienced wrestlers are since we don't always know them.

    I think we were doing that in the thread about tonight though, my only negative was about the main event fight (the card has better fights imo and we may not see some of them).

    This card also has a few style contrasts like McFredries - Massenzio, Sakara - Vepepo and certainly Rid Red vs Alexander.

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    I dont think that the fighters on UFN get paid enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    You're right; that's mainly what we talk about.

    Its good to know who the experienced wrestlers are since we don't always know them.

    I think we were doing that in the thread about tonight though, my only negative was about the main event fight (the card has better fights imo and we may not see some of them).

    This card also has a few style contrasts like McFredries - Massenzio, Sakara - Vepepo and certainly Rid Red vs Alexander.

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    That thread will die off though. I wanted to make this a running thread kind of like the Adolf blog. It does not have to stay on a certain topic but its where we strictly talk about the fighting aspect and not any of the other stuff.

    I agree about the style contrasts and that is what is making this card interesting to me. Even the Bradley vs. Lauzon fight is a good style match up as Lauzon is the wrestler/gnp guy and Bradley likes to strike and submit.

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    I like contrasting styles too - some of the best fights of all time involve fighters who are really strong at one aspect of their game.

    Sometimes really well rounded guys result in boring fights and sometimes they give us exciting fights.

    I think Danzig - Guida will be exciting because Guida can go 15 minutes at a high pace and has good heart and chin too

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    The Danzig/Guido fight is the one that Im looking forward to tonight. I like both guys, but I think Danzig is just a tad better. I dont hink it will be boring unless one decides to use LnP as his fight plan

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    I have been going back and forth on the Guida-Danzig fight. I do not think either guy will have a real advantage on the feet and Guida will look for the takedowns but Danzig has pretty good defensive wrestling. On the ground Guida will be looking to work from the top position with his maniac gnp but Danzig is a savvy vet who is pretty slick with his submissions. The key will be whether Danzig can keep up with Guidas pace and whether Guida can push that pace without leaving too many openings for Danzig to exploit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimach View Post
    The Danzig/Guido fight is the one that Im looking forward to tonight. I like both guys, but I think Danzig is just a tad better. I dont hink it will be boring unless one decides to use LnP as his fight plan
    I'd never question Guida on cards even if he loses. He brings it and only guys ready for a fast pace can hang or beat him. I think it's a harder than normal challenge for a TUF winner's 2nd fight (Danzig is the underdog too).



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