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    Zapp I've actually heard one MMA insider claim that Schaub will surpass Carwin and make a run at the UFc title. Your thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Oliverbush View Post
    Zapp I've actually heard one MMA insider claim that Schaub will surpass Carwin and make a run at the UFc title. Your thoughts?
    Ummm, I disagree, given what I've seen. I think Schaub is talented, but I think his ceiling is below where Carwin is right now, let alone after some more development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Oliverbush View Post
    Zapp I've actually heard one MMA insider claim that Schaub will surpass Carwin and make a run at the UFc title. Your thoughts?
    does this alleged insiders name begin with a "P" and end with a "Y"?
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    Carwin is 34 Schaub is 26, i would definitely say schaubs ceiling is higher. He is already a superior striker, carwin will always be the better wrestler, and i would say schaub will end up with a stronger submission game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    Carwin is 34 Schaub is 26, i would definitely say schaubs ceiling is higher. He is already a superior striker, carwin will always be the better wrestler, and i would say schaub will end up with a stronger submission game.
    Schaub is younger, it's true, but I don't see any reason to say Schaub is a superior striker. He hits hard, but I think Carwin hits harder, and throws straighter punches. In the fight we saw of Schaub against a decent wrestler, Schaub was terrified of getting taken to the ground, and he barely fired off a strike. As his striking relates to MMA, I haven't seen anything to indicate that Schaub is superior to Carwin.

    Further, Schaub's TD defense is pretty terrible, especially given the positions he was able to get into with his back against the cage and getting to underhooks. And then there's his propensity to grab the cage to avoid TD's. Eventually he's going to run into a fighter who won't gas out like that, and he'll lose handily, especially with the deductions.

    A to the submissions, I see no reason to assume that submissions will ever be a prolific part of Schaub's game. Yeah, he got layed on, but he didn't do anything from the bottom to even hint at being able to develop into any kind of relevant submission guy, or even to be able to stall out. Madsen did the stalling for him.
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    Well I am cheating a bit their coaches told me brendan gets the better of the sparring. But schaub is also a golden gloves champion, and has knocked out all of his opponents so far, including another former great wrestler in johnny curtis. I think he has better technique than carwin, is faster and lighter on his feet and is taller with a longer reach.

    Carwin has ridiculous power but i have been unimpressed with his stand up to this point, he seems pretty stiff and his defense has a lot of holes. They both can improve their standup but carwin has a lot less time to do so.

    Schaub was facing a very good very strong wrestler, so getting taken down is not that big of a deal although i agree his defense needs a lot of work specifically reaching over the top going for the guillotine instead of stuffing the head.

    I dont think schaub is a big threat off his back to submit yet, but i dont think carwin is either. Again though with schaub being 26 and with his long legs i think he has a better chance of becoming a threat off his back than carwin does. He does however have some very dangerous anaconda and darce chokes that he likes to throw when people shoot or in transition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimach View Post
    does this alleged insiders name begin with a "P" and end with a "Y"?
    It's interesting that you ask about those letters. Actually his initials are USS

    But I see my comment sparked a little bit of debate. Excellent.
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