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    Forrest Griffin, Diego Sanchez, Rashad Evans, Joe Stevenson, Michael Bisping, the list of high quality, above average fighters to conquer The Ultimate Fighter series goes on.*

    These are just the names of some who won the show.

    Next in line, Nelson, Schoonover, Mitrione, seriously?*

    Lets face it fight fans, this crop of Ultimate Fighters leaves a lot to be desired.* No one has really put on an impressive performance thus far.* A couple have dominated but that may be more a result of their opponents than their potential.*** That is not to say they are not a talented group with potential, but which one of these fighters has proven so far that they can come close to competing with a Cheick Congo, a Cain Velasquez, or god forbid a Brock Lesnar.

    The whole point of bringing these fighters into the UFC is to make waves in their division.* Up to this point, not one fighter has shown the quality required to accomplish that goal.* There is a definite potential for improvement in every case so far.

    One glaring weakness has been stamina.* The gas tanks seem half empty in a few cases.* This is understandable to an extent but not excusable by any means.

    These potential fighters have chosen one of the most demanding athletic competitions to participate in by pursuing a career as a fighter.* Their cardio does not reflect their ambitions at this time.

    Sure they have a great deal of time between wrapping the show and the actual finale where they will compete in the big show.* Even still, their state of cardio in the show is indicative that they may not taking it very serious in the first place.

    Time will tell and there*are still a few fights to come.*

    That said, up to this point it has been fairly lackluster.* Even the victories were sluggish, devoid of true competition at the elite level required to consider one UFC quality.

    The most impressive display of aggression and power has been between Rampage and poor little innocent door.* Not exactly as advertised when we started this thing a few weeks back.

    When a fight fan tunes in to watch heavyweights compete for the chance of a lifetime, the expectations are far removed from what actually is transpiring before their eyes.
    Needless to say, this season has really been a letdown in more ways than one.*

    The whole premise of the coaching match-up has been thrown out the window, leaving the relentless trash talk to lose its luster.

    The fighters chosen for the show have not been able to excel in a match or exceed the other fighters abilities.* Sadly when both competitors have room for improvement it makes really getting into the show hard to do.

    Bottom line is this, as an MMA writer I have had the opportunity to roam my local area following regional events with a fever.* In my experiences, I have seen more than one heavyweight fighter who would mop the floor with some of these guys.

    How some of these TUF cast members earned their spot is a mystery to me knowing the talent that is out there just waiting to be discovered at the regional level.* Maybe more fighters should tryout so the talent pool will be deep for the UFC to choose from.
    This is not an attempt to totally discredit the accomplishments of those competing on the show, more so than a depiction of the realization that this season has been watered down by fighters who need more training to compete at the elite level.

    It seems more obvious as each week passes, that we have been lured hook line and sinker, into following a show that promises nothing more than some "yo mammy" trash talk between two coaches who may never fight, and the ongoing hope that Kimbo Slice will return and take over the heavyweights TUF show somehow.

    Neither event is going to happen any time soon so why do we continue to tune in so religiously?*

    We know damn well there is not one competitor thus far that could carry Heath Herrings jock strap.

    So what is the point?*

    In the end perhaps there isn't one, perhaps we don't mind being misled to believe that quantity is better than quality.* At this time, the quantity of potential UFC heavyweights far outweighs the quality.**

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    When guys like Griffin, Bisping, Florian, Koscheck etc. came off the show no one was saying they could take on the top contenders let alone champions. Some of the guys on the show definitely have talent but are far from finished products. Ill give it a few years and several fights in the ufc before i start comparing this group to the early seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    When guys like Griffin, Bisping, Florian, Koscheck etc. came off the show no one was saying they could take on the top contenders let alone champions. Some of the guys on the show definitely have talent but are far from finished products. Ill give it a few years and several fights in the ufc before i start comparing this group to the early seasons.
    PJ - I think you and others (Dana) suggested this year had a greater talent pool than previous shows and so far, that doesn't appear to be the case. Latest letdown is Scott Junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    PJ - I think you and others (Dana) suggested this year had a greater talent pool than previous shows and so far, that doesn't appear to be the case. Latest letdown is Scott Junk.
    I think this season definitely has talent, some are very raw but the ability is there. I think of the british season and the season that mac danzig won and they were awful. Season three for the most part was garbage as 185 has produced grove, herman, and starnes while lhw produced one star in bisping and one pretty good fighter in hamill. Season 7 and season 8 may still be too early to be judged but i dont see any of those fighters being top contenders. Sadollah got knocked out in 1 minutes and dollaway has been a letdown. Bader could still be a great prospect but most of the other fighters from that show are gatekeepers at very best.

    Roy Nelson is a proven veteran, Brendan Schaub is a great prospect. Jon Madsen is similar to Koscheck and Hamill in that he has some great wrerstling credentials but is still one dimensional. Justin Wren is another pretty good wrestler (junior national greco champ, prep national champ) and is pretty solid in jiu jitsu, and both Marcus Jones and Mitrione are big powerful athletes.

    As i said most are still raw and have a lot of room to grow but there is definitely potentially.

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    This season does seem to be especially bad though. I have not been inpressed with anyone yet. I was impressed with a lot of the fighters in the earlier seasons though many didn't win, they still have made good UFC fighters-Matt Hamil, Diego, Joe Stevenson, Forrest, Rashad, ect. They looked good by this time in the competition and these fighters don't. It could be the way the camera is working the show this season. We are not seeing a lot of hard-core practices, just little glimpses of the training.

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    This year's cast needs a crash course in cardio training..
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    LOL - PJ, you are the only one who would call Bisping a "star"

    I would saw Wes Combs too is super powerful (all 3 of the NFL guys are), but I'm not sure any of them will fight in the UFC. The first 2 gassed badly and Marcus probably will too.

    I still trust you that Schaub is better than he looked. Nelson also didn't look great.

    And another one (besides Junk) who tooted his own horn (and continues too) and didn't live up to the hype is McSweeney.
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    Im not a fan of Mcsweeney. He has a strong kickboxing background but has no takedown defense or ground game. He is also not very big for the weight either.

    All i am saying is lets not judge the cast after one fight. Rashad evans was getting ripped apart by matt hughes after his first fight, forrest griffin was getting rocked by alex schonaurer, kenny florian didnt look impressive after his fights with leben and sanchez, and mike swick got submitted in the first round.

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    Ti*ties is gonna win this season.
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