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Old 09-08-2008, 04:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think as the sport has advanced people are doing a better job of scouting their opponents. Chuck has had a tendancy to leave himself open to that sort of counter. It looked like Rampage and Rashad both were waiting for that opening and expoited it. That being said I still think he avoids that blow a couple of years ago with his quicker reflexes.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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anyone notice rashads shirt. i think this was the picture on it
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:00 PM   #23 (permalink)
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On Chuck vs. Spider... it would be a good matchup as far as bringing in money and entertaining fans, but looking at where both of them are in their respective careers (Chuck in decline vs. Spider at his peak) I don't really see Chuck being competitive against the Spider.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:10 PM   #24 (permalink)
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anyone notice rashads shirt. i think this was the picture on it
Yeah, it looked like Bill Gate's mug shot. I was trying to figure out exactly what he was endorsing.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:25 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Yeah, it looked like Bill Gate's mug shot. I was trying to figure out exactly what he was endorsing.
i really don't know what he was wearing it for. but i'm going to make myself one anyway.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:47 AM   #26 (permalink)
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ATLANTA (AP) _ Chuck Liddell was the face of the Ulimate Fighting Championship. Rashad Evans is part of the changing of the guard in mixed martial arts.

Evans knocked out Liddell with a thunderous overhand right to the jaw 1:51 into the second round Saturday night at UFC 88, setting up a likely championship bout with light heavyweight title-holder Forrest Griffin late this fall.

"Hopefully it puts me right up there," Evans said. "I'm a patient man."

Liddell, the former champ and a key figure in the rise of the sport, has lost three of his last four fights, two of them by knockouts.

"I'm fine. A guy caught me," Liddell said after the loss. "What you want me to say?"

There has been speculation that the 38-year-old would retire, but Liddell wouldn't discuss it.

"I'll decide in the gym whether or not to retire. Not after a fight," he said.

Liddell was on the canvas for several minutes after the knockout before getting to his feet and walking out of the octagon.

"You've got to go right for the horns," Evans said. "You can't fight him trying to takedowns."

The 28-year-old Evans is unbeaten after getting his start on the reality television series "The Ultimate Fighter." He won the second season of the Spike TV series.

Liddell and Evans were scheduled to fight in June, but the bout was postponed. Neither had fought since late last year.

Attendance at the sold-out event in Philips Arenda was 14,736, making for a gate of $2.6 million.
Chuck's not finished.

He just took a loss.

We all lose sometimes.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
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We all lose sometimes.
Or three out of four times.
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Or three out of four times.
....to a guy who beat him years ago in his prime, a top contender with a KO of the current champ and an undefeated guy. He ain't losin' to bums here. Sanwiched between these bad outings are wins over W. Silva and Tito. He's far from washed up.
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....to a guy who beat him years ago in his prime, a top contender with a KO of the current champ and an undefeated guy. He ain't losin' to bums here. Sanwiched between these bad outings are wins over W. Silva and Tito. He's far from washed up.
Two years ago he was in the mix for best pound for pound. Hard to put him top 5 at 205 right now. Maybe not washed up, but he is no longer dominant therefore either past his prime or he was previously overated.
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I'd say a combination of past his prime and other fighter's gameplanning better against him.
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