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    Let's not forget that Aoki has submitted the very large Eddie Alvarez absolutely manhandled former 170 standout Jason Black. Black, in his heyday, was a dominant positioning GnPer who bullied his opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leglace View Post
    Hansen is a small lightweight. He may really be a 145 pounder, like Shaolin really is was well. I do not think Aoki would do well in the cage against guys like Tyson Griffin, Sean Sherk, Sanchez, as those guys would rough house and keep the fight where they want. Aoki is not good at getting hit and taking it. I would be interested in seeing Aoki fight Nate Diaz before he could talk about being in the top 3 in the UFC.
    I meant big boys in terms of the better 155s, not the literal big boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DingoBrigade View Post
    Let's not forget that Aoki has submitted the very large Eddie Alvarez absolutely manhandled former 170 standout Jason Black. Black, in his heyday, was a dominant positioning GnPer who bullied his opponents.

    Same Jason Black that was manhandled by Tavarez?

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    Nope, the Jason Black that was essentially undefeated at the time Aoki worked him over so badly. He was 22-1-1 with the one loss coming via a freak injury versus Shonie Carter. Again, I'm just pointing out that he has more than held his own versus a couple of much bigger, much stronger, bullying opponents.
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    Default Re: Shinya Aoki: "I'm Better And Capable Of Beating UFC Fighters"

    Aoki also beat jz who is a big 155 lber.

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    I finally watched it - must have been like 4 seconds left when Hansen tapped. Bad idea to go for that knee as time was running out and his arm was stuck.

    I think Hansen was winning at that point, but no doubt the judges would have given it to Aoki. Dream is too bias for the homecrowd favorites for my taste (worse than pride)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DingoBrigade View Post
    Nope, the Jason Black that was essentially undefeated at the time Aoki worked him over so badly. He was 22-1-1 with the one loss coming via a freak injury versus Shonie Carter. Again, I'm just pointing out that he has more than held his own versus a couple of much bigger, much stronger, bullying opponents.
    It is the same Jason Black that got tooled by Tavarez then. Black has not impressed me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    Aoki also beat jz who is a big 155 lber.
    Calvacante is not the kind of buzzsaw Sherk and Griffen are. Both of those guys also possess good cardio and good submission defense on top of that.

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    Default Re: Shinya Aoki: "I'm Better And Capable Of Beating UFC Fighters"

    I think aoki could definitely beat griffin. Griffin is solid and does have very good cardio but he has also never faced anyone as dangerous as aoki on the ground. Even if he did not get submitted i think he would be on the defensive the whole time.

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