Roy Nelson Talks Special Treatment On Kimbo

snakerattle79 · 10-02-2009, 11:50 AM

http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/10/01/r...e-on-tuf/#cont

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What did Dana say to you after the fight?

Roy Nelson: I think he wasn't happy with that fight. I mean, everybody was really mad. Kimbo's whole entourage was there, which was kind of funny since we are all supposed to be isolated, but Kimbo actually had his whole fan base, the whole 305 over there. There's definitely some favoritism already built up there. Whatever. But they simply said to me that I have a better skill set than Kimbo, which I don't know if it's true. I'm just a fat guy. I'm going to go with one of my favorite sponsors, TapouT, [and say] I'm just bad for the sport.

Did you get the impression that the people working on the show were upset that Kimbo lost?

Roy Nelson: I'll tell you the executive producer of The Ultimate Fighter was very upset. He doesn't know fighting, he was just like, 'Oh, there goes my cash cow.'

Back to Kimbo's entourage, how many people were actually there because I didn't notice any extra people around?

Roy Nelson: Actually, if you go back and actually look at the clips, they are actually behind where Dana, Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta are. There's his entourage screaming 305. I mean, I didn't really get to see it because I was concentrating on the fight, but everybody kind of told me about it, and I was like, 'What?' I think he really did have a media room in the house because there was one door in our bedroom where it was locked all the time.

Really?

Roy Nelson: I don't know if he had an iPhone, but he definitely wasn't on the same contract as everybody else.

Was there any resentment in the house because of this?

Roy Nelson: No, we just had a list in the house, and we made sure we ordered food on his list because we knew Kimbo would get it.

Did his entourage come to the house?

Roy Nelson: Not actually at the house, but the fact that they could even show up was pretty, I guess, ballsy, I would say. It's kind of insulting.

So it bugged you?

Roy Nelson: Just that from what you're told and then what you see is totally different, yeah. It's very insulting when you think you have to put your life on hold for six weeks, and it's not really that.

clmetal · 10-02-2009, 12:25 PM

LOL.

But Dana has said otherwise, and he's never misled us before.

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He has the same TUF deal but if he makes it into the UFC, his contract is different. A LOT f***ing different.
He's getting zero special treatment, he's not getting anything anyone else isn't getting.

I'd like VAK to show up in this thread and tell us why Dana has been consistent all along. And that TUF offer was really just a slight on Kimbo and that he has to win the show to make it into the house.

Sounda like Big Country got himself on Dana's shit list by winning. Kind of ironic since Dana also went off on Shaw for encouraging Seth to stand (knowing that is where Kimbo has the best shot)

Pimach · 10-02-2009, 12:37 PM

"Sounda like Big Country got himself on Dana's shit list by winning"

I see Big Country in Strikeforce if he doesnt win TUF. you dont mess with the golden goose.

clmetal · 10-02-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimach

"Sounda like Big Country got himself on Dana's shit list by winning"

I see Big Country in Strikeforce if he doesnt win TUF. you dont mess with the golden goose.

Dana should have told Rashad in secret not to make that matchup; Dana said a year ago that Kimbo wasn't good enough to be on TUF and Roy Nelson was good enough to be in the UFC without going on this show.

He mocked his GNP right after the fight which is pretty lame considering Shaw's wish that people stand with Kimbo.

Not like Dana doesn't have say in later matchups (it's his decision) and same thing about who returns to the show.

If that guy Marcus complains about his knee or whatever, Dana will press hardcore for him to drop out. (see if it's his decision or if Dana steps in out of concern for "his health")

masseNgill · 10-02-2009, 01:04 PM

I think he mocked Nelson's GNP because Nelson was acting like he just took out Lesnar or Fedor.

Pimach · 10-02-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by clmetal

Dana should have told Rashad in secret not to make that matchup; Dana said a year ago that Kimbo wasn't good enough to be on TUF and Roy Nelson was good enough to be in the UFC without going on this show.

He mocked his GNP right after the fight which is pretty lame considering Shaw's wish that people stand with Kimbo.

Not like Dana doesn't have say in later matchups (it's his decision) and same thing about who returns to the show.

If that guy Marcus complains about his knee or whatever, Dana will press hardcore for him to drop out. (see if it's his decision or if Dana steps in out of concern for "his health")

yeah its not cool talking about the dudes gnp but then thats the area that DW should be talking about, I wonder what would have happened if BC ko'd Slice.

I was thinking about that Marcus guy and his gimpy knee, Im sure Rampage wouldnt mind getting rid of him too, he seemed annoyed by him.

clmetal · 10-02-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimach

yeah its not cool talking about the dudes gnp but then thats the area that DW should be talking about, I wonder what would have happened if BC ko'd Slice.

I was thinking about that Marcus guy and his gimpy knee, Im sure Rampage wouldnt mind getting rid of him too, he seemed annoyed by him.

Kind of like last season, a fighter may complain while saying he wants to fight. Can't show any weakness or DW will act. I think he'll pounce on this, but I think this guy really does want to fight

Adolf Oliverbush · 10-02-2009, 03:46 PM

I think its great that Dana White has been able to set his personal feelings about Kimbo Slice aside, and give him an opportunity on TUF, just like any other up and comer. This is a great chance for Kimbo to really make a run at an MMA career and allow the main stream fan to really get to know him. We understand that he isn't the best, we get that. We know that he has a long way to go yet, that's clear. But what's really important for MMA is that we get to see a real guy, in a real situation where he's a huge under dog, and he's fighting for legitimacy. That's compelling Claudale and that makes for good TV. If I were a young kid, I'd be looking up to Kimbo Slice as a roll model. The inner me Claudale, the inner me. And there's nothing wrong with that. Mr Dana White should be praised for his efforts, instead you criticize him.

clmetal · 10-02-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Adolf Oliverbush

I think its great that Dana White has been able to set his personal feelings about Kimbo Slice aside, and give him an opportunity on TUF, just like any other up and comer. This is a great chance for Kimbo to really make a run at an MMA career and allow the main stream fan to really get to know him. We understand that he isn't the best, we get that. We know that he has a long way to go yet, that's clear. But what's really important for MMA is that we get to see a real guy, in a real situation where he's a huge under dog, and he's fighting for legitimacy. That's compelling Claudale and that makes for good TV. If I were a young kid, I'd be looking up to Kimbo Slice as a roll model. The inner me Claudale, the inner me. And there's nothing wrong with that. Mr Dana White should be praised for his efforts, instead you criticize him.

35 year old up and comer.

Adolf, with Dana and Kimbo it's simple, I just need to dig up his own words. Difference now is Elite had him while he was undefeated and the UFC is all over a guy who has lost 2 strait; 1 in TUF and one to a guy "who wasn't good enough for the UFC; who couldn't even win TUF" - Dana's words (paraphrasing)

You always liked him, so that's fine. And I understand the ratings angle from the UFC. But besides the obvious hypocrisy Dana, too much of this takes away from the sport. If he wins a reality show where he got a 2nd shot because of ratings. Legit sports like the UFC can't just favor fan favorites. (this is them going the WWF route)

Pimach · 10-02-2009, 04:08 PM

[quote=clmetal;263988]35 year old up and comer.

Adolf, with Dana and Kimbo it's simple, I just need to dig up his own words. Difference now is Elite had him while he was undefeated and the UFC is all over a guy who has lost 2 strait; 1 in TUF and one to a guy "who wasn't good enough for the UFC; who couldn't even win TUF" - Dana's words (paraphrasing)

You always liked him, so that's fine. And I understand the ratings angle from the UFC. But besides the obvious hypocrisy Dana, too much of this takes away from the sport. If he wins a reality show where he got a 2nd shot because of ratings. Legit sports like the UFC can't just favor fan favorites. (this is them going the WWF route)[/quote]

If there was no Vince McMahon the promotor/showman there would be no Dana White the promotor/showman. most of what he does copies VM, which is ok now for the newer fans hes bringing in but for hardcore fans like us, its lame.

I dont mind that hes using KImbo but if he got beat then let him go or make him earn his wayonto the show like other seasons did.

10-02-2009, 12:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pimach Olympic Champ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Rez Posts: 3,033	Re: Roy Nelson Talks Special Treatment On Kimbo "Sounda like Big Country got himself on Dana's shit list by winning" I see Big Country in Strikeforce if he doesnt win TUF. you dont mess with the golden goose. __________________ Like Billy Jacks' soul attack, I'm one Injun you wont forget. www.euromitsu.com

10-02-2009, 01:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
masseNgill Redshirt Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 52	Re: Roy Nelson Talks Special Treatment On Kimbo I think he mocked Nelson's GNP because Nelson was acting like he just took out Lesnar or Fedor.

10-02-2009, 03:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Adolf Oliverbush Olympic Champ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 3,718	Re: Roy Nelson Talks Special Treatment On Kimbo I think its great that Dana White has been able to set his personal feelings about Kimbo Slice aside, and give him an opportunity on TUF, just like any other up and comer. This is a great chance for Kimbo to really make a run at an MMA career and allow the main stream fan to really get to know him. We understand that he isn't the best, we get that. We know that he has a long way to go yet, that's clear. But what's really important for MMA is that we get to see a real guy, in a real situation where he's a huge under dog, and he's fighting for legitimacy. That's compelling Claudale and that makes for good TV. If I were a young kid, I'd be looking up to Kimbo Slice as a roll model. The inner me Claudale, the inner me. And there's nothing wrong with that. Mr Dana White should be praised for his efforts, instead you criticize him. __________________ Lets go Brent!

10-02-2009, 04:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pimach Olympic Champ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Rez Posts: 3,033	Re: Roy Nelson Talks Special Treatment On Kimbo [quote=clmetal;263988]35 year old up and comer. Adolf, with Dana and Kimbo it's simple, I just need to dig up his own words. Difference now is Elite had him while he was undefeated and the UFC is all over a guy who has lost 2 strait; 1 in TUF and one to a guy "who wasn't good enough for the UFC; who couldn't even win TUF" - Dana's words (paraphrasing) You always liked him, so that's fine. And I understand the ratings angle from the UFC. But besides the obvious hypocrisy Dana, too much of this takes away from the sport. If he wins a reality show where he got a 2nd shot because of ratings. Legit sports like the UFC can't just favor fan favorites. (this is them going the WWF route)[/quote] If there was no Vince McMahon the promotor/showman there would be no Dana White the promotor/showman. most of what he does copies VM, which is ok now for the newer fans hes bringing in but for hardcore fans like us, its lame. I dont mind that hes using KImbo but if he got beat then let him go or make him earn his wayonto the show like other seasons did. __________________ Like Billy Jacks' soul attack, I'm one Injun you wont forget. www.euromitsu.com

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