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    Default Kevin Iole: "Dana White's Double Standard?"

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

    By Kevin Iole:

    When Kimbo Slice fought in Elite XC, the company was roundly criticized for pushing a man with no experience as a mixed martial artist into main event bouts and having him headline shows on both Showtime and, more significantly, CBS.

    Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White made no secret of his disdain for Slice?s abilities and for the way the now-defunct Elite XC promoted him.

    But lo and behold, after Slice accepted an offer to appear on Season 10 of ?The Ultimate Fighter,? the UFC is exhibiting much the same behavior that Elite XC and promoter Gary Shaw were so roundly criticized for.

    After generating record ratings for the Season 10 opener, the Slice marketing push from the UFC has kicked into overdrive. White has already said Slice will fight again in the UFC, regardless of the outcome of the show.

    That may indicate that Slice fares better than expected in the show, but it runs counter to the way White has handled other TUF fighters. He has given contracts to fighters who didn?t win on TUF, but it came after the season, not just two weeks in.

    Slice will face former International Fight League champion Roy Nelson on Wednesday in a show the UFC and Spike TV are pushing so hard that they held a conference call with Slice on Monday. They?re touting it as the biggest fight in TUF history, which is saying a mouthful since White himself credits the TUF 1 finale between Stephan Bonnar and Forrest Griffin with saving the company.

    Unless Slice somehow defeats Nelson ? and I can?t see how he can ? it?s extremely hypocritical of White to give Slice a second shot in the UFC based simply on his popularity.

    If Slice wins and defeats Nelson, who is my pick to win the season and earn the UFC contract, then giving him a contract to fight in the UFC is fine.

    Other than that, though, giving him a contract is buying into the marketing hype that White so venomously ripped Elite XC for.

    If Slice loses and proves not to be a capable mixed martial artist, putting him in the UFC regardless would bring to mind the infamous quote made many years ago by boxing promoter Bob Arum: ?Yesterday, I was lying. Today, I?m telling the truth.? Finally

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    Default Re: Kevin Iole: "Dana White's Double Standard?"

    Slice will fight again in the UFC, regardless of the outcome of the show.
    I predicted that part.

    Nice to see Iole rag on Dana a little, but I'm still sure the UFC had to approve this story before it was printed. Iole likely knows the result and Dana already admitted in earlier episodes that he ragged on the guy and is now giving him a shot.
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    Come on Caludale, the man earned his spot in the UFC. Junie Brown, Dave Kaplan, Alex Karalexis, et al got their shot but you don't want Kimbo to get it after impressing everyone? I'm beginning to wonder if you may be racist. That's something that i wont tolerate ever Claudale.
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    hahaha....damn, Claudale gets a few rations of sh!t on this site.

    I'm pretty surprised that the Lapdog wrote this, although it's pretty mildly toned.
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    I think it was an attempt to make Iole seem less partial.

    Adolf, he's coming to TUF because people watch him fight. You can't admit that? It's a "brilliant business move" when Dana copies what embarrassed and set the sport back when Elite did it. Double standard, with DW, what do you expect.
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    Dana also acted like a ahole to Roy Nelson. (and I thought the gnp in round one was pretty hard)

    He beat "the star" and as far as we know, did it for free. He's a big name fighter and former champ and Dana puts him down for knocking out the star of the show (the guy who Dana said couldn't beat BJ or Uriah)
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    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    I think it was an attempt to make Iole seem less partial.

    Adolf, he's coming to TUF because people watch him fight. You can't admit that? It's a "brilliant business move" when Dana copies what embarrassed and set the sport back when Elite did it. Double standard, with DW, what do you expect.
    Claudale when have I ever denied that Kimbo was brought to TUF for ratings? We're on the same page buddy. I think you're confusing me with Zapp Brannigan. The point that I am arguing is that Kimbo should be allowed into the UFC, even if he fails to win the whole show. That's the point I'm making. Kimbo has a knock out win over a UFC veteran and is a house hold name. These are exactly the kind of guys that Dana should be running through TUF and then let into the UFC to see how they do. Why are you against it?

    And BTW, Elite XC did something totally different. They tried to fool the public by building Kimbo as the best fighter on the planet. Mr. Dana White is doing no such thing. he has him on the try out show for Pete's sake!!!!!!!
    Lets go Brent!

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    http://www.cagepotato.com/faulty-com...se-kimbo-slice

    Faulty Comparison Alert: Elite XC’s Use of Kimbo Slice ≠ UFC’s Use of Kimbo Slice

    If you were surprised how quickly Dana White changed his attitude about Kimbo Slice once the opportunity for the UFC to make money off the internet-brawler-turned-bread-getter presented itself, then congratulations, you have only just now discovered the sport of MMA, the UFC, and the business of fight promotion. Welcome, we're glad to have you. Those of us who have been following this stuff in general, and Dana White specifically, saw this change of heart coming.

    But over at Yahoo! Sports, Kevin Iole seems blown away by what he refers to as a “double standard” in the way the UFC is hyping Kimbo Slice. Iole criticizes the UFC’s use of Slice for “exhibiting much the same behavior that Elite XC and promoter Gary Shaw were so roundly criticized for,” and also calls out White for giving Kimbo at least one more fight in the UFC after the show concludes, “regardless of the outcome of the show.”

    On the surface, this seems like a valid criticism. White used to say that the only way Kimbo would get in the UFC was to win a season of TUF. Now it seems like it was enough just to show up. But there’s still no comparison between how EliteXC pushed Slice and how the UFC is doing it.

    What EliteXC caught hell for was taking a novice fighter with a peculiar type of internet notoriety and pretending that he was a main event caliber fighter on a network TV event. Both financially and otherwise, they valued a guy with only a handful of fights against handpicked opponents over solid veterans like Robbie Lawler and genuinely talented draws like Gina Carano. It was a short-sighted strategy, and one that was doomed to fail sooner or later, which is exactly what happened.

    But the UFC didn’t scoop up Slice and put him into a pay-per-view main event against someone they knew he could beat. They put him on their Spike TV reality show. It’s the same show that has frequently featured guys with 0-0 records, or guys who got to spend the night in the house because they were the crazy brother of a crazy former cast member. What I’m saying is, TUF is the perfect place for Kimbo, and you can’t blame the UFC or Spike TV for a media push designed to get the most out of the fan interest in Ferg.

    What the UFC isn’t doing, however, is telling us that Kimbo is something he clearly is not. They also aren’t trying to protect him, otherwise some intrepid producer would have gotten in Rashad Evans’ ear before he could match Slice up against the favorite to win the whole thing. That the UFC is giving Slice at least one more fight after the show is over isn’t necessarily damning evidence of some double standard. For one, White already knows how Kimbo does on the show, so he may not be basing that decision purely off of Kimbo’s ability to draw ratings (only mostly).

    But beyond that, look at some of the other TUF non-winners who have wound up getting at least one or two UFC fights. Guys like War Machine and Dave Kaplan didn’t dazzle anyone with their performances on the show, but they got a shot in the Octagon anyway. Odds are Dana White knew they were going to get their shot before the show had finished airing. One of the reasons he didn’t say anything might be because few people were asking.

    With Slice, the question is unavoidable. Instead of being pointlessly cagey and telling people they’ll have to wait and see, Dana White just confirmed what we were already expecting. That’s not at all the same thing as putting him in the main event of a CBS show and calling him the best striker in MMA’s heavyweight division. It’s not even in the same area code.

    Sure, the UFC is pushing tonight’s show much harder than most TUF episodes. That only proves that they aren’t idiots. There’s a reason the ratings for this season are through the roof, and as much as we’d like to think otherwise, it isn’t because America has fallen in love with Greg Jackson.

    Is it convenient that White changed his perspective on Kimbo as soon as he put on a "Team Rampage" jersey? Sure, but it's not any more hypocritical than calling Wanderlei Silva an overrated, washed-up brawler for being knocked out by "Cro Cop," and then changing that tune immediately after signing both men to UFC contracts. That's the way this works. Of all the aspects of fight promotion that you can complain about, giving Kimbo the opportunity to prove himself against someone who matters is the least objectionable. Hyping it hard to get the best ratings possible, that's just smart.

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    Default Re: Kevin Iole: "Dana White's Double Standard?"

    I thought Dana's criticism of Nelson was unwarranted. Why would Nelson want to break his hand on the top of Kimbo's head? Kimbo got put in the same position in both rounds with the same result. It was clear that if the fight would have went on that position wouldn't have changed. And by the way, where did you all get that picture of Kimbo almost getting an armbar? Could it be that he comes back in and they fight again?

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