Olympian Daniel Cormier Close To Signing With Strikeforce - Page 2

ODH · 09-09-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vaisforlovers

He knows how to cut weight, he chose to do it incorrectly(there is a flo interview where he jokes about being 20-30 over) I have no doubt he'd make 205 if he concentrated(and there was some cash on the line)

So a chance at an Olympic medal was not motivation enough?

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Originally Posted by DingoBrigade

There have been other 205s who walk around upwards of 230

My point exactly, I would guess he is way north of 230, so why not go Heavy? He has proven that he is not good at weight management. Focus on something that he can be good at.

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Originally Posted by clmetal

The dehydration situation is really disappointing, pretty much the same as not making weight and going into the games, I believe he was our highest ranked wrestler.

Not sure what time weigh ins are relative to matches, but with the UFC, you weigh in like 30 hours before a match and I think MMA guys cut more weight than wrestlers.

Olympics weigh-ins were the day before. I believe that there are MMA guys who are doing more weght-cutting than most wrestlers. With the weigh-in the day before, I believe it is only a matter of time before we see some deaths due to weight cutting, similar to what we had in wrestling about 10 years ago.

clmetal · 09-09-2009, 12:26 PM

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Olympics weigh-ins were the day before. I believe that there are MMA guys who are doing more weght-cutting than most wrestlers. With the weigh-in the day before, I believe it is only a matter of time before we see some deaths due to weight cutting, similar to what we had in wrestling about 10 years ago.

thanks - I figured it was only hours before.

He's beaten Mocco, so I imagine he can wrestle at least at the level as the big Hwts in MMA

p-jersey · 09-09-2009, 01:20 PM

Yea i heard cormier was between 245-250. He seems to have enough body fat to make it to 205 but i dont know if we will consistently see him at that weight.

clmetal · 09-09-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by p-jersey

Yea i heard cormier was between 245-250. He seems to have enough body fat to make it to 205 but i dont know if we will consistently see him at that weight.

Damn, closer to the Hwt max than LWT - but I guess he can make it with the big guys. This might be Hahn's chance to be on the national team for a few years.

vaisforlovers · 09-09-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by clmetal

Damn, closer to the Hwt max than LWT - but I guess he can make it with the big guys. This might be Hahn's chance to be on the national team for a few years.

Hahn will have a chance, but I believe Varner will have the spot locked up for a while now.

p-jersey · 09-09-2009, 02:38 PM

I thought hahn was done competing.

clmetal · 09-09-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by p-jersey

I thought hahn was done competing.

I have no idea. He got 2nd in the last olympic tryouts, right? Maybe this will inspire him to go for another run. The Cormier situation in the last olympics really was disappointing, mitigated by Cejudo's awesome run.

VAis - I don't see Varner beating Hahn, have they wrestled before? Are you trying to earn points with Adolf?

If Varner was 184 this year, he would have gotten 3rd.

Adolf Oliverbush · 09-09-2009, 02:54 PM

Cormier would be a small, (fat) heavyweight. He would be hard pressed to compete with the giants who are legitimately near the 265 pound weight limit, (Lesnar, Carwin, etc.). At 205, he would be a threat to anyone, especially if he really focused on his cross training. I guess time will tell. I'm hoping to not see a repeat of a Ghaffari-esque physique in the heavyweight division by a decorated American wrestler.

Adolf Oliverbush · 09-09-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by clmetal

I have no idea. He got 2nd in the last olympic tryouts, right? Maybe this will inspire him to go for another run. The Cormier situation in the last olympics really was disappointing, mitigated by Cejudo's awesome run.

VAis - I don't see Varner beating Hahn, have they wrestled before? Are you trying to earn points with Adolf?

If Varner was 184 this year, he would have gotten 3rd.

Are you crazy Claudale? Herbert is Varner's personal whipping boy. Varner used to smash him every time they'd see each other. If Varner were just a bit smaller, he'd be wrecking the domestic field at 84 kilos, (not 184 pounds). Hanh would be hard pressed to score a point on Varner. Come now Claudale, you're trying to bait me into a reaction over your comment and it isn't going to work!

clmetal · 09-09-2009, 03:25 PM

Did Varner have an undefeated season last year? Did he even win the Big 12 (or in wrestling, the Big 5)?

He also lost to Pucillo, so he would have been in the bottom bracket and probably wouldn't have met this year's undefeated MOW.

09-09-2009, 01:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
p-jersey MMA Mod Supreme Join Date: May 2008 Location: Denver Posts: 3,219 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Olympian Daniel Cormier Close To Signing With Strikeforce Yea i heard cormier was between 245-250. He seems to have enough body fat to make it to 205 but i dont know if we will consistently see him at that weight. __________________ Denver, CO-Wrestling

09-09-2009, 02:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
p-jersey MMA Mod Supreme Join Date: May 2008 Location: Denver Posts: 3,219 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Olympian Daniel Cormier Close To Signing With Strikeforce I thought hahn was done competing. __________________ Denver, CO-Wrestling

09-09-2009, 02:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
Adolf Oliverbush Olympic Champ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 3,718	Re: Olympian Daniel Cormier Close To Signing With Strikeforce Cormier would be a small, (fat) heavyweight. He would be hard pressed to compete with the giants who are legitimately near the 265 pound weight limit, (Lesnar, Carwin, etc.). At 205, he would be a threat to anyone, especially if he really focused on his cross training. I guess time will tell. I'm hoping to not see a repeat of a Ghaffari-esque physique in the heavyweight division by a decorated American wrestler. __________________ Lets go Brent!

09-09-2009, 03:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
clmetal Olympic Champ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Philthadelphia, South America Posts: 2,990	Re: Olympian Daniel Cormier Close To Signing With Strikeforce Did Varner have an undefeated season last year? Did he even win the Big 12 (or in wrestling, the Big 5)? He also lost to Pucillo, so he would have been in the bottom bracket and probably wouldn't have met this year's undefeated MOW. __________________ "I don’t give a f_ck about money, bro. Believe me when I tell you that." Dana White

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